BaL 24.10.15 - Mozart: Symphony no. 36 in C K.425 "Linz"

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  • EdgeleyRob
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    I used to enjoy conducting this symphony with a pencil in my youth. Had the Jeffrey Tate version back then.
    Knitting needle's better chuck,but be careful !

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    • Alison
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      • Nov 2010
      • 6468

      #17
      Never heard the Kleiber before - phenomenal stuff.

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Just listened to the SCO/Mackerras this evening. I bought the discs when they first came out but have no recollection of playing the 'Linz'

        Anyway, it's very fine indeed and with a full clutch of repeats clocks in at over 36 minutes. Definitely a live contender and Alison could have picked us a winner here.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #19
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          The one I turn to most often is Leonard Bernstein and the VPO on DG
          Yep - me, too.

          but I do have the Decca one as well and that's equally fine.
          Is that the one coupled with Lennie playing/conducting the Piano Concerto #15 on the now-defunct DECCA "Ovation" label? I had that for many years, but no more, alas ...
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Is that the one coupled with Lennie playing/conducting the Piano Concerto #15 on the now-defunct DECCA "Ovation" label? I had that for many years, but no more, alas ...
            Yes that's the one. These were amongst the first recordings LB made with the VPO, in 1966, and one of his VPO concerts at the time included the Mozart PC 15 coupled with Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #21
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Yes that's the one. These were amongst the first recordings LB made with the VPO, in 1966, and one of his VPO concerts at the time included the Mozart PC 15 coupled with Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde.
              - the latter of which he also recorded (in the Baritone option with DF-D) at this time, too.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                Knitting needle's better chuck,but be careful !
                I prefer Harry Potter replica wands - Voldemort's is white, so makes an excellent baton.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  I prefer Harry Potter replica wands - Voldemort's is white, so makes an excellent baton.
                  I do find it tiresome when supposedly mature, sensible adults attach themselves to aspects of children's culture.




                  I use a Sonic Screwdriver.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I do find it tiresome when supposedly mature, sensible adults attach themselves to aspects of children's culture.

                    I use a Sonic Screwdriver.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22182

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      I do find it tiresome when supposedly mature, sensible adults attach themselves to aspects of children's culture.




                      I use a Sonic Screwdriver.
                      Many years ago I used a spirtle until one birthday a kind friend bought me a baton. In the podium of my mind I'm Solti or Barbirolli but I guess an orchestra will never grace the stage!

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #26
                        I have Sir Charles Mackerras and the SCO, but I also have The Symphony Edition set by Claudio Abbado(my all time favourite conductor).
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • LeMartinPecheur
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          I did include this one, even though it reminds me of the plebs who cut up Jahn Martin's painting,The Last Judgement, to create wall panels.
                          One of the plebs who regularly cut up Mozart symphonies like that was WAM himself, or at the very least that's what he would have expected to be done.

                          That's what they did with symphonies in those days - interspersed other, more interesting music In short concerts anyway - Zaslaw Mozart's Symphonies p.342; "...on a short programme the finale of the opening symphony might be saved for the conclusion".

                          And Franz Clement inserted trick virtuoso trifles, including playing the violin upside down, between movements of Beethoven's Violin Concerto at its premiere! I think HIPP should take this practice fully into account more often, so well done to Gerhaher ( see #5)
                          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20572

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                            One of the plebs who regularly cut up Mozart symphonies like that was WAM himself, or at the very least that's what he would have expected to be done.
                            I thought someone would bring this one up. What actually took place may not always have been what he wanted. However, the important thing is that we are selective about adopting the vices of previous eras, cultures, etc.

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                            • verismissimo
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              I compared Columbia/Walter with Bavarian Radio/Leitner (nla I think) and to my surprise much preferred the latter, Walter seeming sleepy.

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #30
                                I also have Claudio Abbado's Symphony Edition, which sounds alright!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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