BaL 29.03.25 - Schumann: Carnaval

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  • Darloboy
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    • Jun 2019
    • 353

    #31
    Am I right in thinking that no fortepiano recordings were mentioned?

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    • Ein Heldenleben
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      • Apr 2014
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      #32
      Yes you’re right.
      I’m wondering what fortepiano Schumann played in 1834 ? Ah it is was an Andreas Stein now restored and in his house.
      Off thread I went to an extraordinary Winterreise on Friday night at the Wigmore Hall . Sung magnificently by Joyce DiDonato it was accompanied no less superbly by Maxim Emelyanychev on one of the best fortepianos I’ve ever heard, It really worked…

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      • MickyD
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        • Nov 2010
        • 4967

        #33
        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

        ... thanks very much for flagging that up : I have found Daniel Grimwood to be revelatory in other recordings, so look forward to getting this one!

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        I echo that sentiment. I have Grimwood doing Chopin and the Liszt Années de Pèlerinage but wasn't aware of the Schumann.

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
          • 11497

          #34
          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
          Yes you’re right.
          I’m wondering what fortepiano Schumann played in 1834 ? Ah it is was an Andreas Stein now restored and in his house.
          Off thread I went to an extraordinary Winterreise on Friday night at the Wigmore Hall . Sung magnificently by Joyce DiDonato it was accompanied no less superbly by Maxim Emelyanychev on one of the best fortepianos I’ve ever heard, It really worked…
          Neil Fisher of The Times was not so keen on her Winterreise:

          The mezzo-soprano’s reframing of Schubert’s song cycle, which tells the story from a different character’s perspective, is a flawed idea that doesn’t work from the start


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          • gurnemanz
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7491

            #35
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

            Neil Fisher of The Times was not so keen on her Winterreise:

            The mezzo-soprano’s reframing of Schubert’s song cycle, which tells the story from a different character’s perspective, is a flawed idea that doesn’t work from the start

            Guardian was positive. I like Joyce DiDonato and would happily have gone along. We recently enjoyed Ian Bostridge's staged Winterreise at Ustinov Theatre, Bath.

            Back to Carnaval - the BaL (not yet listened) sent me back to going through the various versions I already have. Just greatly enjoyed Sergio Fiorentino on Berlin Recordings collection.

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12054

              #36
              Looks like the 1952 Solomon that was on Testament has disappeared . As I understand it once the pressed copies Of Testament CDs sell out they won’t make any more.

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              • gradus
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                • Nov 2010
                • 5685

                #37
                If you enjoy fast-paced performances try Robert Casadesus - must have had a train to catch.

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                • JWillsMusicFan
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                  • Apr 2025
                  • 4

                  #38
                  Hello all. Just signed up here, and enjoying some listening on my day off at home. Just listening to last weekend's Record Review with Andrew McGregor and much enjoying the variety of recommended new releases - Charles Wood, Dvorak (yes, I hear the nightingale too, which I'd not thought before!), Florence Price. Liza Lehmann next.

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30919

                    #39
                    Originally posted by JWillsMusicFan View Post
                    Hello all. Just signed up here, and enjoying some listening on my day off at home. Just listening to last weekend's Record Review with Andrew McGregor and much enjoying the variety of recommended new releases - Charles Wood, Dvorak (yes, I hear the nightingale too, which I'd not thought before!), Florence Price. Liza Lehmann next.
                    Good morning JWMF - and welcome, particularly as you prove the email verification system IS working properly.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • JWillsMusicFan
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                      • Apr 2025
                      • 4

                      #40
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post

                      Good morning JWMF - and welcome, particularly as you prove the email verification system IS working properly.
                      Thanks. Listening to that Bacewicz recommendation from RR on a loop - what a piece!

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26641

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        Looks like the 1952 Solomon that was on Testament has disappeared . As I understand it once the pressed copies Of Testament CDs sell out they won’t make any more.
                        A 1956 RIAS recording by Solomon is available on Qobuz:



                        (I always think of him in relation to this work, as my mother always raved about a performance she had heard by him - sadly she never found an LP of him playing it)

                        I thought this was a very good BAL - at last, some extracts played more than once in comparative performances, and some informative comment without a surplus of mutual agreement with AMcG.

                        Surprising perhaps that no very recent recordings featured (unless I’ve forgotten one), in contrast to many BALs of late, and that no ‘period’ instruments featured.

                        Illuminating survey nonetheless. I’ve had the Uchida since it came out (and the Testament recording by Solomon); it was the de Larrocha that caught my ear, and which I shall be seeking out.
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • silvestrione
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1765

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JWillsMusicFan View Post
                          Hello all. Just signed up here, and enjoying some listening on my day off at home. Just listening to last weekend's Record Review with Andrew McGregor and much enjoying the variety of recommended new releases - Charles Wood, Dvorak (yes, I hear the nightingale too, which I'd not thought before!), Florence Price. Liza Lehmann next.
                          Ooh, tell me more about the nightingale, please?

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                          • JWillsMusicFan
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                            • Apr 2025
                            • 4

                            #43
                            Originally posted by silvestrione View Post

                            Ooh, tell me more about the nightingale, please?
                            The reviewing musician, pianist Andrew Mathews Owen, said the opening piano motif of the second movement of the Dumka from the recording he selected remind him of a nightingale saying "maybe it's the song pianist in me". I totally agree and hadn't thought of it before. Dvorak loved Schubert/Schumann lieder too so, who knows...

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                            • visualnickmos
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3622

                              #44
                              Yevgeny Kissin does a pretty good job with this piece.

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                              • gradus
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5685

                                #45
                                Boris Giltburg on Youtube from 2011 gives a sublime performance, as fine as any I've heard and reminiscent of Myra Hess in approach..

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