BaL 15.03.25 - Dvořák: Symphony 8

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 11491

    BaL 15.03.25 - Dvořák: Symphony 8

    I'm reliably informed that the subject for this edition is Dvořák's Symphony 8, and that the reviewer is our own makropulos, Nigel Simeone.
    I'll update with the R3 website blurb when they sort all the episodes out!


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    Building a Library
    Nigel Simeone chooses his favourite recording of Dvořák’s 8th Symphony

    Dvořák’s lyrical 8th Symphony, infused with the spirit of Bohemian folk music, was written between August and November 1889 and first performed on 2 Feb 1890 to mark Dvořák’s admission to the Czech Academy of Arts and Sciences. It has a very original symphonic structure, appearing to be in the usual four movements, but Dvořák said he wanted to handle themes in a ‘different way’ in this piece.


    Presto listing here:



    The BBC MM release (Volume 10, Number 11) is with the BBC PO under Gianandrea Noseda, recorded in (at?) New Broadcasting House, Manchester, in December 2001.

    First choice:
    Prague Symphony Orchestra, Sir Charles Mackerras (conductor)
    Supraphon SU38482
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 16-03-25, 08:50. Reason: Website blurb and First choice details added.
  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12052

    #2
    Halle/Barbirolli - now that was easy . Though that late 1940s live Walter from New York is stupendous.

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    • Petrushka
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12498

      #3
      Tough job! There are so many good ones out there but my favourites are VPO/Karajan (Decca) and Cleveland Orchestra/Szell.
      Last edited by Petrushka; 04-03-25, 19:08.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Mandryka
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        • Feb 2021
        • 1587

        #4
        . I like Christoph von Dohnanyi and Yakov Kreizberg most in this symphony I think.

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        • Alison
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          • Nov 2010
          • 6515

          #5
          Last covered in October 2011; Rob Cowan selecting, somewhat controversially at the time, LSO/Davis.

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 11491

            #6
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Last covered in October 2011; Rob Cowan selecting, somewhat controversially at the time, LSO/Davis.
            Oops.....seeing your name reminded me that standards have slipped.
            In my rush and confusion I've forgotten to mention the BBC MM CD release here and in the Bruckner thread!

            About to be remedied!
            Last edited by Pulcinella; 05-03-25, 14:56. Reason: Typo

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            • Darloboy
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              • Jun 2019
              • 353

              #7
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Last covered in October 2011; Rob Cowan selecting, somewhat controversially at the time, LSO/Davis.
              Yes, and prior to that Anthony Burton chose LPO/Mackerras in June 03

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              • Wolfram
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                • Jul 2019
                • 319

                #8
                Originally posted by Darloboy View Post

                Yes, and prior to that Anthony Burton chose LPO/Mackerras in June 03
                I think Mackerras’ 2005 live recording with the Prague Symphony Orchestra is better. I have a huge soft spot for Kertesz though.

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                • silvestrione
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1763

                  #9
                  I listened to VPO/Karajan, and thought it impressive, but a little heavy-handed.
                  My favourite has always been Kubelik with the BPO, idiomatic (in my probably ignorant opinion!) and with wonderful playing...that burnished brass!
                  I suspect Nigel will steer us towards some orchestra with stronger Czech credentials.
                  Last edited by silvestrione; 06-03-25, 20:33.

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                  • Wolfram
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                    • Jul 2019
                    • 319

                    #10
                    Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                    My favourite has always been Kubelik with the BPO, idiomatic (in my probably ignorant opinion!) and with wonderful playing...that burnished brass!
                    Not ignorant at all! I agree, it’s a marvellous, heartfelt recording, for me it probably just pips Mackerras and Kertesz.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22306

                      #11
                      Kertesz and Kubelik have both stood the test of time for many years!

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                      • akiralx
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                        • Oct 2011
                        • 434

                        #12
                        Budapest FO/Fischer for me.

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                        • oliver sudden
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                          • Feb 2024
                          • 774

                          #13
                          The BBC legends disc with the rightly legendary live Beecham Sibelius 2 also has a live Beecham Dvořák 8 which is not quite as unmissable but nonetheless jolly fine and no swash remains unbuckled. Shouldn’t be anyone’s first Dvořák 8 but should certainly be considered for anyone’s second.

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Kertesz for me out of the classic cycles - ahead of Kubelik and Rowicki . I have never really got the latter all a bit worthy for me.

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12498

                              #15
                              I don't envy our own makropulos in choosing his favoured version!

                              In our BaL discussions, opinion often seems to settle on one or two recordings that most of us recognise as being worthy of 'winning' but in this case the same recording has hardly been mentioned twice in our comments!

                              Interesting, too, that no Czech Philharmonic recordings are being mentioned in what is probably Dvorak's most 'Czech' symphony. I've only got the Vaclav Neumann recording with them and it's perfectly OK.

                              Two other versions that deserve a mention are Harnoncourt and Sir Colin Davis both with the Concertgebouw.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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