BaL 01.02.25 - Mozart: Piano sonata 15

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 11136

    BaL 01.02.25 - Mozart: Piano sonata 15

    1500
    Building a Library
    Kenneth Hamilton chooses his favourite version of Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 15 in F Major, KV 533/494

    (I'm sure that someone here will know/explain why there are two K numbers associated with the piece. Once more, there are no further details on the website.)

    Presto listing (many in sets of the complete sonatas) here:


  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 4443

    #2
    As far as I can discover, Mozart incorporated the earlier piece into the 533 but revised it in the process. I think some pianists don't play it as they consider it an unfinished or imperfect work, but the signs are that Mozart was satisfied, as he offered it to Hoffmeister for publcation.

    Apart from downoads, it's surely impossible to buy a recording of just this sonata, and indeed many available recordings wil be so only as part of a 5-CD set of all 17 (or 18!) . So choosing a 'best buy' will be difficult. Easy for me. it's always Gieseking first then everyone else. Barenboim is profound, as always, but maybe too heavy for some these days. His EMI recording takes 27 minutes,the andante alone over thirteen.

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    • Mandryka
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      • Feb 2021
      • 1573

      #3
      I like Yudina


      1. Allegro 00:002. Andante 08:493. Rondo: Allegretto 20:15rec. 1963



      The elephant in the room is Pletnev

      Wolfgang Amadeus MozartPiano sonata K.533/494I. Allegro 0:00II. Andante cantabile 7:15III. Rondo. Allegretto 19:04Mikhail PletnevStudio recording, Moscow, 1984
      Last edited by Mandryka; Yesterday, 10:41.

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12346

        #4
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        1500
        Building a Library
        Kenneth Hamilton chooses his favourite version of Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 15 in F Major, KV 533/494

        (I'm sure that someone here will know/explain why there are two K numbers associated with the piece. Once more, there are no further details on the website.)

        Presto listing (many in sets of the complete sonatas) here:

        I've often wondered why some of Mozart's works have more than one K number without bothering to look it up. It's because they were written in multiple parts. The Kochel catalogue is in date order and, in the case of the Sonata No 15, the Rondeau finale was written first (K494). Mozart added the other movements later to the existing finale (K533).
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • Petrushka
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12346

          #5
          I'm wondering if BaL are starting a trend of considering shorter pieces tailored for the download generation? If so, it will be like going back to the 78 era! Looking forward, then, to future BaL's on Flight of the Bumblebee and Chopin's Minute Waltz.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • silvestrione
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            • Jan 2011
            • 1731

            #6
            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
            I'm wondering if BaL are starting a trend of considering shorter pieces tailored for the download generation? If so, it will be like going back to the 78 era! Looking forward, then, to future BaL's on Flight of the Bumblebee and Chopin's Minute Waltz.
            ?? Steady on. Poor old BAL can't win! This is new to BAL (I think?), and an interesting work we have not had before, and NOT short.

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12346

              #7
              Originally posted by silvestrione View Post

              ?? Steady on. Poor old BAL can't win! This is new to BAL (I think?), and an interesting work we have not had before, and NOT short.
              I was speaking in jest. The trend, if there is one, might be more to shorter works that are either used as fillers or short in the sense that they are part of a larger collection. I've actually got no problem with BaL considering individual overtures, symphonic poems or the like as it will give the reviewer more chance of providing a good number of examples. It's also a good chance, as you point out, to consider pieces never given the BaL treatment.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 11136

                #8
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                I've often wondered why some of Mozart's works have more than one K number without bothering to look it up. It's because they were written in multiple parts. The Kochel catalogue is in date order and, in the case of the Sonata No 15, the Rondeau finale was written first (K494). Mozart added the other movements later to the existing finale (K533).
                Thanks!

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                • silvestrione
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1731

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                  I was speaking in jest. The trend, if there is one, might be more to shorter works that are either used as fillers or short in the sense that they are part of a larger collection. I've actually got no problem with BaL considering individual overtures, symphonic poems or the like as it will give the reviewer more chance of providing a good number of examples. It's also a good chance, as you point out, to consider pieces never given the BaL treatment.
                  Sorry, yes, should have picked up the tone...

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