BaL 30.11.24 - Poulenc: Stabat mater

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10975

    BaL 30.11.24 - Poulenc: Stabat mater

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    Building a Library

    Jeremy Sams selects his favourite version of Poulenc's Stabat Mater.

    Poulenc wrote his dramatic Stabat Mater after the death of his friend, the artist Christian Bérard and after a visit to the shrine of the Black Virgin of Rocamadour. His setting of the medieval Stabat Mater text is scored for soprano solo, mixed chorus, and orchestra and was premiered in 1951.

    Presto listing here:



    The BBC MM recording (Volume 29, Number 9) is a Proms performance on 20 July 2016: Julie Fuchs, BBC Singers, BBCSO, Marc Minkowski.

    Recommended Version
    Marlis Petersen (soprano)
    Stuttgart Southwest Radio Vocal Ensemble
    North German Radio Chorus
    Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra Stéphane Denève (conductor)
    Hanssler Classic 93297CD
    Last edited by Pulcinella; Yesterday, 20:24. Reason: Recommended version added.
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10975

    #2
    Not that many versions currently available, according to the Presto site, so here's an attempt at listing them.

    Michèle Lagrange, Choeur et Orchestre National de Lyon, Serge Baudo
    Claudia Barainsky, EuropaChorAkademie, Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie, Joshard Daus
    Marlis Petersen, SWRVokalensemble, NDR Chor, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Stéphane Denève
    Françoise Pollet, RTF Choeur de Radio France, FTR Maitrise de Radio France, Orchestre National de France, Charles Dutoit
    Jacqueline Brumaire, Chorale de l’Alauda, Orchestre Colonne, Louis Frémaux
    Catherine Dubosc, Westminster Singers, City of London Sinfonia, Richard Hickox
    Genia Kühmeier, Bavarian Radio Symphony Choir and Orchestra, Mariss Jansons
    Patricia Petibon, Orchestre de Paris Choir and Orchestra, Paavo Järvi
    Marion Tassou, Vlamms Radiokoor, Brussels Philharmonic, Hervé Niquet
    Kathleen Battle, Tanglewood Festival Chorus, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa
    Gabriekla Benackova, Prague Philharmonic Choir, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Libor Pešek
    Danielle Borst, Ile de France Vittoria Regional Choir, Orchestre de la Cité, Michel Piquemal
    Barbara Hendricks, Choeurs de Radio France, Orchestre National de France, Georges Prêtre
    Carolyn Sampson, Capella Amsterdam, Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir, Estonian National Symphony Orchestra, Daniel Reuss
    Mariannne Croux, Ensemble Aedes, Les Siècles, Mathieu Romano
    Janice Watson, BBC Singers, BBCPO, Yan Pascal Tortelier

    Georgina von Benza, Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Munich Radio Orchestra, Marcello Viotti
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 07-11-24, 21:54. Reason: Typos

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
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      #3
      Apart from the BBC MM recording (which I confess to not having listened to), the other versions on my shelves are the Hickox and a recording that seems to be currently unavailable (I have it in two incarnations: the Erato Œuvres complètes and an EMI Classics 2CD set called Stabat Mater).
      Régine Crespin, Choeurs René Duclos, Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire, Georges Prêtre.

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      • CallMePaul
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        • Jan 2014
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        #4
        I have never heard this work so will listen with interest. It is good to see BAL on ce again looking at wotks that are not "standard repertoire" even if the review is in the wrong church season.

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        • Hitch
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          • Nov 2010
          • 371

          #5
          I am familiar with the Capella Amsterdam/Estonian NSO/Reuss recording on Harmonia Mundi but no others, so this BaL should be enlightening. To my ears, parts of the work, particularly the lovely opening dolorosa, contain the seeds of the later Dialogue des Carmélites.

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          • mikealdren
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1202

            #6
            Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
            I have never heard this work so will listen with interest. It is good to see BAL on ce again looking at wotks that are not "standard repertoire" even if the review is in the wrong church season.
            It's well worth it, enjoy....

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            • Darloboy
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              • Jun 2019
              • 332

              #7
              Never been covered by BaL before, although it might have been mentioned by Roger Nichols in a programme on Poulenc’s choral music back way back in November 1988….

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10975

                #8
                Originally posted by Darloboy View Post
                Never been covered by BaL before, although it might have been mentioned by Roger Nichols in a programme on Poulenc’s choral music back way back in November 1988….
                He may well have done: there are some interesting comments on the work in his Poulenc biography, which I was looking through the other day.
                It's a work that I can summon up little enthusiasm or indeed affection for, despite some wonderful passages in it.
                This is a problem for me with some other settings too, and I'm still tempted to start a general thread, as mentioned elsewhere (following ff's mention of the Cornysh).
                I'm planning a day trip (if the weather is decent) on broadcast day, so this might be one I have to catch up with later.

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                • mikealdren
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1202

                  #9
                  If I listen at all (which I will in this case) it's rarely live since the programme moved to Saturday afternoon.

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                  • Retune
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                    • Feb 2022
                    • 319

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Not that many versions currently available, according to the Presto site, so here's an attempt at listing them.

                    Michèle Lagrange, Choeur et Orchestre National de Lyon, Serge Baudo
                    Claudia Barainsky, EuropaChorAkademie, Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie, Joshard Daus
                    Marlis Petersen, SWRVokalensemble, NDR Chor, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Stéphane Denève
                    Françoise Pollet, RTF Choeur de Radio France, FTR Maitrise de Radio France, Orchestre National de France, Charles Dutoit
                    Jacqueline Brumaire, Chorale de l’Alauda, Orchestre Colonne, Louis Frémaux
                    Catherine Dubosc, Westminster Singers, City of London Sinfonia, Richard Hickox
                    Genia Kühmeier, Bavarian Radio Symphony Choir and Orchestra, Mariss Jansons
                    Patricia Petibon, Orchestre de Paris Choir and Orchestra, Paavo Järvi
                    Marion Tassou, Vlamms Radiokoor, Brussels Philharmonic, Hervé Niquet
                    Kathleen Battle, Tanglewood Festival Chorus, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa
                    Gabriekla Benackova, Prague Philharmonic Choir, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Libor Pešek
                    Danielle Borst, Ile de France Vittoria Regional Choir, Orchestre de la Cité, Michel Piquemal
                    Barbara Hendricks, Choeurs de Radio France, Orchestre National de France, Georges Prêtre
                    Carolyn Sampson, Capella Amsterdam, Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir, Estonian National Symphony Orchestra, Daniel Reuss
                    Mariannne Croux, Ensemble Aedes, Les Siècles, Mathieu Romano
                    Janice Watson, BBC Singers, BBCPO, Yan Pascal Tortelier

                    Georgina von Benza, Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Munich Radio Orchestra, Marcello Viotti
                    Interesting episode on a piece I don't know at all.

                    Final cut:

                    Marianne Croux, Ensemble Aedes, Les Siècles, Mathieu Romano
                    Régine Crespin, Choeurs René Duclos, Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire, Georges Prêtre

                    Winner:

                    Marlis Petersen, SWR Vokalensemble, NDR Chor, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Stéphane Denève

                    Of these, only Croux/Romano seems to be readily available on CD. Is there even a download of Crespin/Prêtre​? Jeremy Sams would I think like to have picked the latter for Crespin alone (and who can blame him?) but felt the chorus wasn't quite up to the mark.

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                    • Pulcinella
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 10975

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Retune View Post

                      Interesting episode on a piece I don't know at all.

                      Final cut:

                      Marianne Croux, Ensemble Aedes, Les Siècles, Mathieu Romano
                      Régine Crespin, Choeurs René Duclos, Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire, Georges Prêtre

                      Winner:

                      Marlis Petersen, SWR Vokalensemble, NDR Chor, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Stéphane Denève

                      Of these, only Croux/Romano seems to be readily available on CD. Is there even a download of Crespin/Prêtre? Jeremy Sams would I think like to have picked the latter for Crespin alone (and who can blame him?) but felt the chorus wasn't quite up to the mark.
                      Thanks for this.
                      OP updated with Recommended version.
                      It's a little odd that the Crespin/Prêtre version seems to have sunk without trace.

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8493

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                        Thanks for this.
                        OP updated with Recommended version.
                        It's a little odd that the Crespin/Prêtre version seems to have sunk without trace.
                        Available on Amazon for £23.20 plus £6.50 delivery !

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                        • Retune
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                          • Feb 2022
                          • 319

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                          Thanks for this.
                          OP updated with Recommended version.
                          It's a little odd that the Crespin/Prêtre version seems to have sunk without trace.
                          Especially odd as, if I understand Jeremy correctly, the Poulenc family liked Crespin/Prêtre so much they did not allow further recordings for more than 20 years (Prêtre's next version from the 80s with Barbara Hendricks is dismissed in the programme as not that remarkable).

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