Last week when I was away and only had radio 3 for music - Mr Trelawney announced on Breakfast that the I and A was to be played - and in this performance by the Sinfonia of London - heart leapt - with John Wilson - heart sank .
BaL 01.06.2024 - Elgar: Symphony 1
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Originally posted by LMcD View Post
A good place to start - an opinion clearly shared by Ken Russell in the first of his TV films about Elgar.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostLast week when I was away and only had radio 3 for music - Mt Trelawney announced on breakfast that the I and A was to be played - and in this performance by the Sinfonia of London - heart leapt - with John Wilson - heart sank .
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
... I find I have on my shelves a 1962 performance with the Sinfonia of London and the Allegri Quartet. O! The conductor is one John Barbirolli ! - hope that wd meet with your approval...
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Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post
You have one of the 'Classics of the Gramophone' recorded by Victor Olof in the Kingsway hall in '62. If you don't like Elgar after listening to this recording, don't blame Barbirolli or the Sinfonia of London.
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Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post
You have one of the 'Classics of the Gramophone' recorded by Victor Olof in the Kingsway hall in '62. If you don't like Elgar after listening to this recording, don't blame Barbirolli or the Sinfonia of London.
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Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
(I will timidly whisper, though, that it is entirely possible to be a very enthusiastic fan of certain Elgar works but somehow not to have been able to crack the I&A and I know this because this is my own situation. So if you don’t like Elgar after listening to this recording, don’t necessarily give up completely!)
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostSimilarly Debussy's L’apres-midi is always for me folled by La Mer.
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Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
I like this because the CD with those pieces I have listened to the most not only has Après-midi right after La Mer but has far too little time between tracks so that the Db major ending of La Mer goes straight into the flute solo which of course starts on C#.
I'm sure that, for many people, the famous King's Willcocks recording of Fauré's Requiem made them think that the subsequent Pavane was actually an appendix/postlude to the requiem.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostI think it is probably because of my introduction to I & A via the Collins Decca recording, then the JB recording that I find it inseparable from the Ser Str - I always think of the Op47 as the overture! Similarly Debussy's L’apres-midi is always for me folled by La Mer.
BTW Paul le Flem's dates are 1881-1984! He was still writing symphonies well into his 90s! There was a fascinating interview with him in his flat just south of Montparnasse cemetery on YouTube, and round the corner from where we stay in Rue Daguerre, 14th.Last edited by Roger Webb; 04-06-24, 08:02.
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Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
There might be scope here for a thread entitled: Pieces that go well together.
I'm sure that, for many people, the famous King's Willcocks recording of Fauré's Requiem made them think that the subsequent Pavane was actually an appendix/postlude to the requiem.
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Hi, vinteuil, re your 'starting point' in listening, I'd suggest some of Elgar's lighter music. He loved Mozart and I often hear the influence in subtle ways in his lighter works such as the 'Spanish Lady ' and 'Wand of Youth ' suites.
My own introduction to Elgar might not be much help to you, as it was the Larghetto from the second symphony . Michael Kennedy has written about the extraordiary quality of Elgar's music to inspire an instant lifelong devotion, (e.g. Ivor Atkins hearing the premiere of Froissart) and mine was a classic case . It was the first record I bought, at the age of 13, sides five and six of the 1927 recording (D1232) bought for tuppence at a jumble sale at my sister's school (I have it still,as a decoration on the wall of my CD store). I played it and my life was changed from that instant; nothing remotely like it had happened to me before; I was overwhelmed , and I can say of Elgar what Vaughan Williams said about Whitman : 'I've never got over him, I'm glad to say'.
Roger, you are so right about the Ken Russell film, and the tragedy is it wouldn't be at all expensive for the BBC to do high quality films about music today; they just don't want to.
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Originally posted by smittims View Post
Roger, you are so right about the Ken Russell film, and the tragedy is it wouldn't be at all expensive for the BBC to do high quality films about music today; they just don't want to.
Some 'non-musical' friends of my age (mid 70s) still talk about the effect that watching the Delius 'Song of Summer' film had on them....classic Russell.....now, all gone.
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