BaL 11.05.24 - Stravinsky: The Firebird

[Nick Armstrong]

That was my point above (#32), perhaps it was insensitive to treat it frivolously but what I meant was the decisions made in the performance were a collaboration between orchestra and conductor. For Kate to 'appreciate' the musicians in the orchestra and not the musician on the podium is absurd, espescially as, has been pointed out, he has not been charged with any offence.

I tend to agree and nearly added a “” to my post earlier…

[LMcD]

BBC listing of the recommended version: no details of format availability!

Recommended version
Montreal Symphony Orchestra
Charles Dutoit
Decca 4144092

It's a CD.

[Pulcinella]

It's a CD.

Indeed, as already pointed out.

But it's now a Presto CD.

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8059334--stravinsky-the-firebird

Also available as a download (MP3 and FLAC).

PS: What I meant by my comment was that the BBC site gave no mention of what/which (Pedants' Paradise?) formats it was available in.

[Wolfram]

As far as I am aware Dutoit has not been convicted of any crime as grim as the allegations are he has not been judged upon it in a court of law either civil or criminal . King is a convicted paedophile. I am not sure they are comparable .

No they are not comparable.

And what about Gergiev? As far as I am aware he has not harassed or assaulted anyone, but I am sure that I would not buy a recording of his now.

[Wolfram]

No they are not comparable.

And what about Gergiev? As far as I am aware he has not harassed or assaulted anyone, but I am sure that I would not buy a recording of his now.

Sorry, this is off topic. I won’t post again on this issue.

[LMcD]

As far as I am aware Dutoit has not been convicted of any crime as grim as the allegations are he has not been judged upon it in a court of law either civil or criminal . King is a convicted paedophile. I am not sure they are comparable .

Am I allowed to listen to, and sing along with, the last UK No. 1 of the 1960s if I manage to convince myself that can't remember who sang it? And what about 'Everyone's Gone To The Moon'?

[Pulcinella]

Please can we keep comments relevant to the music rather than the personalities involved.
Thanks all.

[Parry1912]

Am I allowed to listen to, and sing along with, the last UK No. 1 of the 1960s if I manage to convince myself that can't remember who sang it?

Why would you want to?

[Roger Webb]

Please can we keep comments relevant to the music rather than the personalities involved.
Thanks all.

But that implies no discussion at all of Eurovision!🇨🇭

[MickyD]

Just playing the Qobuz stream of the winning F/B.....absolutely fabulous Decca sound by Andrew Cornall (producer) John Dunkerley (engineering).

Hey, Roger, it's that man again ! The golden age of Decca recordings.

[LMcD]

Why would you want to?

I like to encourage my wife to join in the singalongs at the care home that give her so much pleasure.

[MickyD]

Checking out the allegations against Dutoit on Wikipedia, I found that, at an unspecified time before today's broadcast, that Kate Molleson had recommended Dutoit/OSM's recordings of Stravinsky's Paris ballets (as Wikipedia calls them) as the best available. Given this, was she an appropriate reviewer for this piece on BAL?

Having said that, I have to say that I was more impressed with Roth/ Les siecles performance and I may check that one for CD availbility.

Recently reissued by Harmonia Mundi

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stravinsky-Ballets-Russes-Siecles/dp/B094GKFTPY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=11C47FL3EJH8A&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oYBP-v1iEUGgpjSbZwrudMILdrGJMIQgnCJx0homM-bzoYHOVr1TANHs74OzB2bxfUSN_1NOMpOyngjlXMfTPCoiNuBP2A8A-pjMHBn6aG1hNKlfwy5KvZIdpZFaW_nt92UY3L7iOptERRy56F4mDezdGIFkARuCa1ui7vlSL1ypZY4o9QO3XRK-nK4WW1jJf-VJG99NVO2SSFR97QueRg.-RJtODGlypCWxAwgjnYXPgkKU1Gspy2MlB7dUEeqYmA&dib_tag=se&keywords=Stravinsky+Roth&qid=1715538441&sprefix=stravinsky+roth%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-1#

[CallMePaul]

Recently reissued by Harmonia Mundi

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stravinsky-Ballets-Russes-Siecles/dp/B094GKFTPY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=11C47FL3EJH8A&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oYBP-v1iEUGgpjSbZwrudMILdrGJMIQgnCJx0homM-bzoYHOVr1TANHs74OzB2bxfUSN_1NOMpOyngjlXMfTPCoiNuBP2A8A-pjMHBn6aG1hNKlfwy5KvZIdpZFaW_nt92UY3L7iOptERRy56F4mDezdGIFkARuCa1ui7vlSL1ypZY4o9QO3XRK-nK4WW1jJf-VJG99NVO2SSFR97QueRg.-RJtODGlypCWxAwgjnYXPgkKU1Gspy2MlB7dUEeqYmA&dib_tag=se&keywords=Stravinsky+Roth&qid=1715538441&sprefix=stravinsky+roth%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-1#

Thanks Micky. However, I see that it is available from Presto as part of a 2-CD set for less than Amazon's pric3e for the single disc! The Amazon offer seems to be for a Japanese version, which may account for the higher price, and may have Japanese notes which are of no use to me or, I guess, most people in the UK!

[MickyD]

Thanks Micky. However, I see that it is available from Presto as part of a 2-CD set for less than Amazon's pric3e for the single disc! The Amazon offer seems to be for a Japanese version, which may account for the higher price, and may have Japanese notes which are of no use to me or, I guess, most people in the UK!

Ah right, sorry, I didn't see the Japanese bit! I have the original Actes Sud discs, but the newer HM reincarnation looks like a great bargain. I wonder if the recordings have been remastered?

[Roger Webb]

Hey, Roger, it's that man again ! The golden age of Decca recordings.

It was a golden age Micky, I've been playing the 'Rite', also Cornall/Dunkerley and the Petrouchka, also engineered by Dunkerley but produced by Ray Minshull, both terrific!