BaL 4.05.24 - Ravel: Piano concerto for the left hand

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    BaL 4.05.24 - Ravel: Piano concerto for the left hand

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    Jeremy Sams chooses his favourite recording of Maurice Ravel's Piano Concerto for the Left Hand.

    Despite having lost his right arm fighting on the Russian front during World War I, Austrian pianist Paul Wittgenstein was determined to continue his concert career. To that end he commissioned concertos from Richard Strauss, Franz Schmidt, Korngold, Britten and Prokofiev and Ravel.

    To Strauss, Wittgenstein complained that he'd orchestrated too heavily, and he returned Prokofiev's concerto saying he didn't understand it and wasn't going to play it. When he took issue with Ravel's long opening cadenza ('If I wanted to play without the orchestra, I wouldn’t have commissioned a concerto!'), Ravel refused to change anything and Wittgenstein played the concerto as written at its 1932 premiere in Vienna.

    It's a dark, compelling, wonderfully orchestrated work in one movement – and a dazzling display of Ravel's huge resourcefulness and skill in managing the solo part which always seems too impossibly rich and virtuosic to emanate from just one hand.

    Presto listing (140 entries) here:

    This page lists all recordings of Piano Concerto in D major (for the left hand) (Concerto pour la main gauche) by Maurice Ravel (1875–1937).
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    #2
    Last on BaL: 07/05/2005 (reviewer Martin Cotton)

    Top recommendation:

    Krystian Zimerman (piano), London Symphony Orchestra, Pierre Boulez (conductor) (recorded 1996)
    DG 449 213-2 (CD)​

    Also recommended:

    Samson Francois (piano), Orchestre de la Societe des Concerts du Conservatoire, Andre Cluytens (conductor) (recorded 1959)
    EMI 566905-2 (CD)​
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 16-04-24, 06:40.

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    • oliver sudden
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      • Feb 2024
      • 643

      #3
      There is a magnificent video recording of François (Frémaux conducting) which I would recommend to all and sundry. It occasionally appears on YouTube…

      There is also some video of Wittgenstein playing two solo excerpts, which is of great historical interest but musically less edifying.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4325

        #4
        Yes, I think there's debate about just how good a pianist Wittgenstein actually was, quite apart from our debt to him for commissioning some fine music.

        Alexander Tharaud gave a magnificent performance at the 2014 Proms with Juanjo Mena and the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra, , which was televised and may turn up as a video.

        I was pleased to see Samson Francois still regarded; I used to have it on a Classics for Pleasure LP. . I think my own favourites remain Julius Katchen (one of his last recordings, with Istvan Kertesz and the LSO) and Monique Haas on DG.

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12932

          #5
          Among others I have the 1982 Leon Fleisher with the Baltimore Symphony under Sergiu Commissiona
          .

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11751

            #6
            Beroff/Abbado

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            • richardfinegold
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              • Sep 2012
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              #7
              Wittgenstein sounds like a very difficult character, but Pianists who sustained injuries to their right hand owe him a debt for having commissioned works. There also is a Hindemith work that came to light a few years ago that Wittgenstein chose not to perform.
              I obtained the Boulez/Zimmerman a few years ago as part of a large Boulez box. It’s the only one that I have listened to since. I listed the conductor first because the Pianist is fine, I guess, but the sound world around him, the atmosphere, is unlike other recordings and performances that I have encountered.

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              • oliver sudden
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                • Feb 2024
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                #8
                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                I was pleased to see Samson Francois still regarded;
                One of my favourite pianists on record! He more or less owns this piece for me.

                There’s a new edition of the piece which removes a bar from the last page. (One of the ‘March’ bars.) Not such a fan of that to be honest. I would have thought Ravel would have had ample opportunity to remove it himself if he didn’t want it there…

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                • Cockney Sparrow
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                  • Jan 2014
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
                  There is a magnificent video recording of François (Frémaux conducting) which I would recommend to all and sundry. It occasionally appears on YouTube…......
                  I see its on Medici TV - "reserved for premium users..." . No doubt the reason it disappears from Y Tube.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11062

                    #10
                    Several versions on the shelves here.

                    Fowke/LPO/Baudo
                    Entrement/Cleveland O/Boulez
                    Zimerman/Cleveland O/Boulez
                    François/Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire/Cluytens
                    Rogé/Montreal SO/Dutoit
                    Collard/ONF/Maazel
                    Ciccolini/O de Paris/Martinon
                    Février/Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire/Munch
                    Gavrilov/LSO/Rattle

                    There is no BBC MM CD recording.

                    Of more recent recordings that I've listened to, I would say that
                    Cédric Tiberghien, Les Siècles, François-Xavier Roth
                    should certainly be in the running.

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                    • smittims
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                      • Aug 2022
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                      #11
                      One thing that's always intrigued me: would it be considered cheating to play it with two hands? I imagine that if I were a pianist I'd find it a strain to use one arm continually with the other idle.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        Not one of my favourite Ravel works - and neither in the G major, I have to say, so I'm bowing out on this one. By the way, the Schmidt is not actually a piano concerto, but a Regerish set of variations for piano and orchestra of 1930 on a theme of Beethoven.

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
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                          • Apr 2014
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by smittims View Post
                          One thing that's always intrigued me: would it be considered cheating to play it with two hands? I imagine that if I were a pianist I'd find it a strain to use one arm continually with the other idle.
                          Yes it would be considered cheating. More importantly it wouldn’t create the musical effect Ravel was after. For example the thumb usually plays the melody in the left hand producing a different effect to than the right hand little finger would.
                          ,

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                          • oliver sudden
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                            • Feb 2024
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by smittims View Post
                            One thing that's always intrigued me: would it be considered cheating to play it with two hands? I imagine that if I were a pianist I'd find it a strain to use one arm continually with the other idle.
                            Cortot did exactly that! Ravel tried to forbid him but to no avail.

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                            • duncan
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                              • Apr 2012
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              By the way, the Schmidt is not actually a piano concerto, but a Regerish set of variations for piano and orchestra of 1930 on a theme of Beethoven.
                              Likewise the Britten, billed as a Diversions for Piano and Orchestra.

                              Needless to say, Wittgenstein asked for changes and he and the composer fell out. Anticipating Taylor Swift by 70 years, Britten revised it in 1950 making the original obsolete compared to the newer Ben's Version*. This side-stepped Wittgenstein's exclusive performing rights opening the piece for all to perform.

                              I love the Ravel and it's a work that has had many good recordings so look forward to this BaL.

                              (*well it should be called this)


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