BaLs: Where do we go from here?

[Pulcinella]

Thanks Pulchie . I’ll try and keep it editorially neutral. Unlike one video tape editor who in a technical report on a TV programme I made logged
“dodgy wig at 17’ 23”

What would he/she (gender neutral; I hate 'they') have made of a recent photoshopped public image, one wonders.

[Ein Heldenleben]

What would he/she (gender neutral; I hate 'they') have made of a recent photoshopped public image, one wonders.

That row is ridiculous - If people had any idea of the amount of picture and audio editing and manipulation that goes into any recorded tv and radio programme. You are seeing and hearing a simalcrum of reality . It’s all at least partly fake . As soon as you edit two shots together or take out a bit of sound you are distorting “reality”

The “fakery” of course extends to recording including opera recording which is why these days I prefer live every time.I’ve more or less stopped buying music but go to about 40- 50 live performances a year.

When it comes to picture manipulation let him that is without sin in the media cast the first stone. For a start half the pics in a newspaper these days are Alamy / Reuters pics posed by models (in tiny font).

[richardfinegold]

I have rarely listened to the actual broadcast, as it comes at 5:30 AM Chicago time on a Sunday morning.. Occasionally I’ve tuned in later on the iplayer or whatever if the discussion here stimulated me to do so, but I found that to be a frustrating experience as well. As others have said, it is the discussion here that holds my interest, and I shudder to think of all the energy through the years that EA has put into typing those lists.

It is beyond me why the producers can’t ask the presenter to produce a list of their short list beforehand. They could even drum up interest in the broadcast by having polling listeners to ask the presenter to consider one extra version as determined by a poll.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I have rarely listened to the actual broadcast, as it comes at 5:30 AM Chicago time on a Sunday morning.. Occasionally I’ve tuned in later on the iplayer or whatever if the discussion here stimulated me to do so, but I found that to be a frustrating experience as well. As others have said, it is the discussion here that holds my interest, and I shudder to think of all the energy through the years that EA has put into typing those lists.

It is beyond me why the producers can’t ask the presenter to produce a list of their short list beforehand. They could even drum up interest in the broadcast by having polling listeners to ask the presenter to consider one extra version as determined by a poll.

There will be such a list. These days one or two key strokes could put it in the website post transmission . I suspect they don’t do that because it would then make the Record Review website - which is already full of short extracts - very long and unwieldy.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

When it comes to picture manipulation let him that is without sin in the media cast the first stone. For a start half the pics in a newspaper these days are Alamy / Reuters pics posed by models (in tiny font).

I've just spent several days manipulating a large album of a relative's children's photographs in order to create a photobook. Photoshop and other photo software isn't only good for changing reality. It/they can turn a poor image into an acceptable one.

But I digress. It's the thought of 3 (three) hours of TS that befuddles my brain.

[Gargoyle]

Record Review, Saturday afternoon, 2pm-4pm, replacing Inside Music.

Or did you mean what's taking the RR slot? Three hours of Tom Service in new programme called Saturday Morning with Tom Service.

I meant what time will the current 10.30 building a library slot move to.

Currently, by the time I’ve been to the shops, caught up with the news and eaten breakfast, I’m ready to sit down will a pot of tea and listen to my favourite R3 programme at 10.30.

[french frank]

I meant what time will the current 10.30 building a library slot move to.

The schedule news amounts to: "Record Review moves to Saturday afternoon (Saturdays, 2pm-4pm)"

To quote the poets Keats:

"... that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know." Apparently.

So for all we know BaL may disappear. Of course, R3 may be allowimg it to move to R2 in exchange for Friday Night is Music Night.

[oddoneout]

I meant what time will the current 10.30 building a library slot move to.

Currently, by the time I’ve been to the shops, caught up with the news and eaten breakfast, I’m ready to sit down will a pot of tea and listen to my favourite R3 programme at 10.30.

The assumption is that it will be in the revised RR slot, but as it isn't mentioned on the published new schedule it's not clear whether that will be the case or indeed if it will continue at all. If you scroll through this(go past television) you'll see the new, much later, slot for RR but no mention of BaL

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2024/new-classical-music-programming-tv-radio

[Ein Heldenleben]

I've just spent several days manipulating a large album of a relative's children's photographs in order to create a photobook. Photoshop and other photo software isn't only good for changing reality. It/they can turn a poor image into an acceptable one.

But I digress. It's the thought of 3 (three) hours of TS that befuddles my brain.

If only we could photoshop our brains …

[Gargoyle]

The schedule news amounts to: "Record Review moves to Saturday afternoon (Saturdays, 2pm-4pm)"

To quote the poets Keats:

"... that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know." Apparently.

So for all we know BaL may disappear. Of course, R3 may be allowimg it to move to R2 in exchange for Friday Night is Music Night.

Oh dear. Worse than I thought.

[Gargoyle]

The assumption is that it will be in the revised RR slot, but as it isn't mentioned on the published new schedule it's not clear whether that will be the case or indeed if it will continue at all. If you scroll through this(go past television) you'll see the new, much later, slot for RR but no mention of BaL
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...mming-tv-radio

Thanks, I overlooked this.

[french frank]

Oh dear. Worse than I thought.

2pm-4pm is somewhat shorter than 9am-11.45am so something will have to go.

[french frank]

FoR3 has risen from the dead and written to Record Review to ask about BaL. An auto-reply gave lots of details as to what could be accessed on the Record Review website, but included this:

"If you have written to us suggesting pieces you would like us to feature on Building a Library, or specific new recordings you would like us to review, we will certainly make a note of all your requests. Many thanks for all your requests, as we want the programme to be as useful to listeners as possible.

It is often not possible to play from all the available versions of the work under consideration in Building a Library. Reviewers like to demonstrate a broad conspectus of the various performing options for a piece. This sometimes means leaving out recordings that are very good in themselves, without being ones they wish to recommend or illustrate. Unfortunately we cannot forward correspondence onto the programme contributors."

It seems likely they will read the email, if only to discover which work is being suggested for BaL. And they may reply ...

[Ein Heldenleben]

FoR3 has risen from the dead and written to Record Review to ask about BaL. An auto-reply gave lots of details as to what could be accessed on the Record Review website, but included this:

"If you have written to us suggesting pieces you would like us to feature on Building a Library, or specific new recordings you would like us to review, we will certainly make a note of all your requests. Many thanks for all your requests, as we want the programme to be as useful to listeners as possible.

It is often not possible to play from all the available versions of the work under consideration in Building a Library. Reviewers like to demonstrate a broad conspectus of the various performing options for a piece. This sometimes means leaving out recordings that are very good in themselves, without being ones they wish to recommend or illustrate. Unfortunately we cannot forward correspondence onto the programme contributors."

It seems likely they will read the email, if only to discover which work is being suggested for BaL. And they may reply ...

I would write direct to the Director Generals office and copy in the R3 controller or vice versa. .I would make it a completely factual enquiry as there is no evidence that BAL is being scrapped. If there were such a plan I think it would have been announced as there’s little PR benefit in hiding the announcement, It’s only worth burying bad news of you think there’s a chance of getting away with it.

[AuntDaisy]

FoR3 has risen from the dead and written to Record Review to ask about BaL. An auto-reply gave lots of details as to what could be accessed on the Record Review website
... "If you have written to us suggesting pieces you would like us to feature on Building a Library, ...
It seems likely they will read the email, if only to discover which work is being suggested for BaL. And they may reply ...

Good luck. Did you suggest a work?