BaL 9.03.24 - Schubert: Symphony No 9, Great

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  • MickyD
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    • Nov 2010
    • 4833

    #16
    Brass playing must be thirsty work.

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 7750

      #17
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      I have lots Barbirolli ( both versions prefer the 1960s one) Krips, Furtwangler,Solti ,Savall ( probably favourite to win and very good) , Erich Kleiber ( another cracker) , Beecham,Boult,Blomstedt ,Jochum, Abbado,Bernstein(DG). Too many though I like them all.
      I have many of the same. My first was Barbirolli/Halle, my introduction to both the work and J.B., one of those LPs that I played on the primitive stereo that my parents had until in shredded the record. Krips is excellent, great playing and that touch of Viennese schmaltz that the otherwise excellent Szell was allergic to. Blomstedt very recommendable. The Savall is is even better for the accompanying Unfinished, but is stunningly recorded. A true embarrassment of riches.
      This Symphony has always seemed to me to have inspired the vast symphonic canvases of Bruckner.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11768

        #18
        I finally tracked down a Seraphim copy of the Barbirolli /Halle Schubert 9 . It was never reissued by EMI - Warner in the Uk until the big centenary box as I recall. It remains right at the top for me.

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        • EnemyoftheStoat
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1136

          #19
          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
          The Mackerras/Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment version is very fine. And Roy Goodman with the Hanover Band has often been commended, too.
          While we're on sobriquets, aren't they the Age of Embezzlement? I'm sure there's nothing in that, although knowing some orchestra managers...
          Last edited by EnemyoftheStoat; 03-03-24, 14:59.

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          • pastoralguy
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7816

            #20
            For me, my first encounter with the work. Boult with the LPO which I borrowed from our local library on tape which I then played until the library asked for it back as there was a queue of other borrowers demanding it! That recording was one of the first budget CDs I ever bought so I must listen to it soon.

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            • vibratoforever
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              • Jul 2012
              • 149

              #21
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              I finally tracked down a Seraphim copy of the Barbirolli /Halle Schubert 9 . It was never reissued by EMI - Warner in the Uk until the big centenary box as I recall. It remains right at the top for me.
              Harmonia Mundi France issued a cd of the Barbirolli Schubert 9 in 1987 and a few copies made their way to London shops!

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              • Maclintick
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                • Jan 2012
                • 1084

                #22
                Like others, I think Le Concert des Nations/Savall is highly fancied. Not a huge choice on my shelves in comparison to some here, but of modern instrument versions I rate COE/Abbado very highly. OAE/Mackerras is fine but now sounds austerely monochrome beside Savall. If I need to wallow in an old-fashioned late-20th century interpretation, then Dresden SK/Davis fits the bill, though in common with many of his contemporaries Sir Colin makes an unmarked accelerando between his stately first movt andante and the allegro proper.

                To test my suspicion that here in the UK this piece has rather fallen out of favour with either the concert-going public, or with conductors & promoters, I consulted the Proms website, which confirmed that between 1963 -- 1992 it was played 23 times, then from 1993 -- 2023 played 10 times, and not at all between 2017 and 2023. In the 1960s Schubert's Great C Major was a yearly fixture.

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                • richardfinegold
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                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7750

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  I finally tracked down a Seraphim copy of the Barbirolli /Halle Schubert 9 . It was never reissued by EMI - Warner in the Uk until the big centenary box as I recall. It remains right at the top for me.
                  That was the one I had, Seraphim. Cost $2.49 at E.J. Evette, I can still visualize the price tag in the upper right corner

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11768

                    #24
                    The Seraphim was the CD - the LP was on EMI Eminence.

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6474

                      #25
                      Pleased to see others have made the case for Haitink ahead of me. His Concertgebouw recording from the seventies was hard to obtain for a while.

                      My dad has a cassette tape of a BaL from around 1980 where John Warrack reviewed and Sir Bernard was the winner.

                      One recording I never much cared for was the BPO/Rattle; well received at the time, nobody seems to remember it now.

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                      • richardfinegold
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 7750

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        The Seraphim was the CD - the LP was on EMI Eminence.
                        Here Seraphim was the EMI budget label for lps. It had a brief life as a CD label but gradually the same recordings actually came in jewel boxes labeled EMI

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7750

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          Pleased to see others have made the case for Haitink ahead of me. His Concertgebouw recording from the seventies was hard to obtain for a while.

                          My dad has a cassette tape of a BaL from around 1980 where John Warrack reviewed and Sir Bernard was the winner.

                          One recording I never much cared for was the BPO/Rattle; well received at the time, nobody seems to remember it now.
                          The seventies Haitink became my favorite and I did mourn its lack of availability. I bought one of the Haitink 20 CD retrospective boxes mainly because of the Schubert but it also had many other treasures

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11768

                            #28
                            There is also a live Barbirolli from the Barbirolli Society .

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                            • Sir Velo
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                              • Oct 2012
                              • 3268

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
                              Like others, I think Le Concert des Nations/Savall is highly fancied. Not a huge choice on my shelves in comparison to some here, but of modern instrument versions I rate COE/Abbado very highly. OAE/Mackerras is fine but now sounds austerely monochrome beside Savall. If I need to wallow in an old-fashioned late-20th century interpretation, then Dresden SK/Davis fits the bill, though in common with many of his contemporaries Sir Colin makes an unmarked accelerando between his stately first movt andante and the allegro proper.
                              .
                              Seeing today's reviewer is Katy Hamilton, I suspect there's no chance of Savall or any of the period bands being among the top recommendations. Expect, therefore, an old school interpretation - for those who fancy a flutter on a dark horse, Gunther Wand and the Berlin Phil could be worth a punt at long odds.

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                              • Retune
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                                • Feb 2022
                                • 331

                                #30
                                Karl Böhm/BPO was my introduction to this piece, together with the 5th on a DG Walkman cassette, performances that still stand up. Interested to hear the well reviewed Savall, but if I were placing a bet for today I might put a small one on Blomstedt's latest Leipzig version on DG even in this crowded field of great performances.






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