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  • Loathecliff

    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    I didn't realise they were doing Mahler songs?
    Hmm, Mahler 2 - Radio 2. I do believe I am controller material.

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    • gurnemanz
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7380

      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
      Hiya MC,

      Yes, its the sort of music Radio 2 successfully programmes in the evenings which is a much better fit than Radio 3.
      I agree that it does not need to be done on R3, but I never listen to R2, so I wouldn't here it. Disparaging comments above about the work itself are fair enough (I actually rather like it) but can't see that comments like: "Old ES should get over himself really" are worth posting.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30249

        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
        but can't see that comments like: "Old ES should get over himself really" are worth posting.
        Reportedly, ES said listeners who objected to the work being on BaL should 'Get over themselves'.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26523

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Reportedly, ES said listeners who objected to the work being on BaL should 'Get over themselves'.
          He did just that.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30249

            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            He did just that.
            As a presenter foot-in-mouth, it ranks with Dimbleby R's, "Jesus wept". Which might well be the listeners' reply to Mr Seckerson.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Padraig
              Full Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 4226

              Originally posted by Loathecliff View Post
              What the hell is radio2 material doing on my one-time sanctuary? (Q is rhetorical)
              Does'nt this look like a case for Bond - James Bond?

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              • gradus
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5604

                Breaking step I'm afraid, I belong to the seeming minority interest on here that this BAL was aimed at. I think it's a major musical work of melodic and lyric genius that is deservedly popular, none of which disqualifies it from R3 imv. Edward Seckerson is an expert on the music theatre and I don't blame him at all for his reported remark.
                I daresay it 'll be a while before the rest of the R and H ouevre is on BAL but no doubt West Side Story, G and S, Fledermaus, Merry Widow etc will pop up again at some point - another outcry then?

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  I'm sure it will - I'll look forward to it

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    I found some of the broadcast interesting, but not up to the standard we might expect from BaL.

                    Clearly AMcG enjoys these interventionist BaLs, so I wonder whether a sensible compromise might be for him to do the occasional BaL himself, rather than this unsatisfactory arrangement.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by gradus View Post
                      I daresay it 'll be a while before the rest of the R and H ouevre is on BAL but no doubt West Side Story, G and S, Fledermaus, Merry Widow etc will pop up again at some point - another outcry then?
                      WSS was featured on BaL last year (8th March) - also presented by the not-quite-over-himself Seckerson. There was no "outcry".
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        It's not just that R2 doesn't broadcast this sort of stuff - neither does R3 nor Classic FM. In effect, there's currently no broadcast outlet for light operas/operettas/opera comiques/musicals.

                        I've been listening with pleasure recently to Auber, Lecocq, Audran and others of Parisian 19th century.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25195

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          He did just that.
                          It was inane and unhelpful, and a will have been a bit offensive to some people.

                          the important point , of course, is that he could have said something positive , such as " Well I really hope those people stay with us and enjoy some great music, in top class performances, that has stood the test of time."
                          or something.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12960

                            WSS is a heck of a better show......IMO of course.

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                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6455

                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              It was inane and unhelpful, and a will have been a bit offensive to some people.

                              the important point , of course, is that he could have said something positive , such as " Well I really hope those people stay with us and enjoy some great music, in top class performances, that has stood the test of time."
                              or something.
                              Well said Sainty. Exactly the point.

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                              • MickyD
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 4748

                                Here's an idea....if there are a number of recorded versions of certain musicals, why then doesn't Radio 2 have its own BAL programme for such works?

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