BaL 6.01.24 - Haydn: The Creation

[Pulcinella]

I was very impressed with the Dorati and the JEG. I have two recordings one on vinyl *and the other CD but I can’t for the life of me remember any of the details. I’ve more or less abandoned CD listening for the joys of Qobuz…
* vinyl is Krauss / Vienna Phil I discover
* update CD is Willcocks - good recording that, Also got a BBC MM CD somewhere and a cassette.

In addition to the Willcocks mentioned earlier, I have the Dorati set (a previous recommendation) and the BBC MM release: two CDs issued as Volume 10 Nos 4 and 5.
Nancy Argenta, William Kendall, Michael George, BBC Singers, BBC Philharmonic, Harry Christophers.

[richardfinegold]

I was very impressed with the Dorati and the JEG. I have two recordings one on vinyl *and the other CD but I can’t for the life of me remember any of the details. I’ve more or less abandoned CD listening for the joys of Qobuz…
* vinyl is Krauss / Vienna Phil I discover
* update CD is Willcocks - good recording that, Also got a BBC MM CD somewhere and a cassette.

I think the Dorati is the one that I struggled with eons ago. Willcocks is HIPP? I am unfamiliar with that conductor.
I’ll try to interrupt my Karajan Brucknerfest to stream something on Apple today

[Ein Heldenleben]

I think the Dorati is the one that I struggled with eons ago. Willcocks is HIPP? I am unfamiliar with that conductor.
I’ll try to interrupt my Karajan Brucknerfest to stream something on Apple today

No Willcocks is not HIPP - he was the Director of Music at Kings and a truly great choral conductor. I don’t have a HIPP recording which is why I mentioned JEG mainly as it has some lovely singing! Ditto the Dorati but then he had some of the greatest post war singers in his line up. He was also a very fine Haydn conductor.

[Pulcinella]

I think the Dorati is the one that I struggled with eons ago. Willcocks is HIPP? I am unfamiliar with that conductor.
I’ll try to interrupt my Karajan Brucknerfest to stream something on Apple today

Willcocks as in King's Cambridge, Richard.
See mentions in previous posts, specifically mine of 28-12-23, 08:14 for a link.

[Ein Heldenleben]

In addition to the Willcocks mentioned earlier, I have the Dorati set (a previous recommendation) and the BBC MM release: two CDs issued as Volume 10 Nos 4 and 5.
Nancy Argenta, William Kendall, Michael George, BBC Singers, BBC Philharmonic, Harry Christophers.

So we have two recs in common . For some reason I’ve listened to the Christophers more than any other - a vagary of my filing system which my father in law once described as uni-heap.

[Pulcinella]

So we have two recs in common . For some reason I’ve listened to the Christophers more than any other - a vagary of my filing system which my father in law once described as uni-heap.

I have the BBC MM CDs in a separate section, in issue order, and I use this splendid link to find my way around them:

https://www.knowledgewise.co.uk/music/

[Ein Heldenleben]

I have the BBC MM CDs in a separate section, in issue order, and I use this splendid link to find my way around them:

https://www.knowledgewise.co.uk/music/

Yes me too - a separate heap largely on top of the CD player! Hence the frequent recourse to Christophers as the main (reasonably well filed ) bookcase is an exhausting extra three steps further away . Sadly CD buying ( like book buying) has been banned expect as part of the one in / one out codicil to the peace treaty

[smittims]

Is that what they call 'nett zero'?

The only CDs I buy now are unmissable finds in charity shops. I stopped buying when
a. I discovered YouTube abd Spotify
b. the graph of total Cds owned intersected the graph of time left to listen to them.
c. My shelves were full anyway.We'd already got a bigger house, buying the next door and 'knocking through ' partly to get more spaceand partly to get rid of the neighbours by the only legal means.

[silvestrione]

For the two-person format, this was I think the best ever BAL for me. From the ridiculous to the sublime! (Thinking of last week's). Both of them knew and loved the piece, and were bubbling over with enthusiasm for it, and Jeremy Summerly was so knowledgeable and informative. I think I'll buy at least a couple of the recommended ones.

[Alison]

Yes I think A McG has to be given his due today. A clear rapport with the excellent JS and on balance to be preferred to Hannah French and Kate Molleson. The slot with Nicholas Daniel was first rate too, again radiating both knowledge and enthusiasm.

Good to hear Karajan, Dorati and Solti illustrated and valued for their own qualities.

[silvestrione]

Disappointingly, the Accentus CDs are a long wait, for some reason. And the Presto download does not have a digital booklet...

[Darloboy]

Agreement from me, certainly. Summerly is (pace Darloboy) consistently among the best of BaL reviewers: unlike many these days, he really knows his stuff, and communicates it with infectious enthusiasm. Grateful for the recommendation too, of which I’m ashamed to say I was previously unaware.

I didn't bother listening to the programme but I see from the BBC web site that Summerly recommended Rademann again. He also recommended him the last time he was on the programme - for Handel's Messiah - on the sole basis that it was the most recent recording. Hopefully he didn't apply the same criteria again.

[Cockney Sparrow]

Disappointingly, the Accentus CDs are a long wait, for some reason. And the Presto download does not have a digital booklet...

Its available on Naxos Music Library (via my County Library Service*), but not the streaming service I pay for which generally, where the record co. provides a PDF booklet, offer it for download.
(NML Thread * https://www.for3.org/forums/forum/cl...-music-library )

(We went to see "Napoleon" last night on the big screen, and I noted the film used choruses from The Creation in the scenes of his marriage to Josephine, and his coronation as Emperor (and I heard singing in English!) I wanted to see how the music input was credited but the credits went on and on and Mrs CS's patience ran out - we left at "Senior Weapons Rubber Moulder"......)

[makropulos]

I didn't bother listening to the programme but I see from the BBC web site that Summerly recommended Rademann again. He also recommended him the last time he was on the programme - for Handel's Messiah - on the sole basis that it was the most recent recording. Hopefully he didn't apply the same criteria again.

The recommendation for Rademann's Creation was well-illustrated and well-argued – not a case of it winning because it was new. I must say I very much want to hear it on the basis of the examples played.

[Pulcinella]

Its available on Naxos Music Library (via my County Library Service*), but not the streaming service I pay for which generally, where the record co. provides a PDF booklet, offer it for download.
(NML Thread * https://www.for3.org/forums/forum/cl...-music-library )

(We went to see "Napoleon" last night on the big screen, and I noted the film used choruses from The Creation in the scenes of his marriage to Josephine, and his coronation as Emperor (and I heard singing in English!) I wanted to see how the music input was credited but the credits went on and on and Mrs CS's patience ran out - we left at "Senior Weapons Rubber Moulder"......)

This looks like it might be the list of pieces/recordings used other than the 'original' soundtrack:

https://www.what-song.com/Movies/Soundtrack/105927/Napoleon