BaL 20.06.15 - Wagner: Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 20.06.15 - Wagner: Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg

    9.30am
    Building a Library: Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
    For Classical Voice, Nicholas Baragwanath considers the available recordings of Wagner's opera, Die Meistersinger about the Mastersingers of Nuremberg, who have a great tradition of composing songs but have become stultified by their petty rules. A young knight openly questions their traditions, and with the help of the wise and humane cobbler, Hans Sachs he not only wins the singing competition but also the heart of the young Eva. There is a strong field to choose from, including performances from Karajan, Kubelick and Jochum.


    Available versions:

    Chor und Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Hermann Abendroth
    Frankfurt Opera Chorus and Orchestra, Carl Bamberger
    Chor und Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Daniel Barenboim
    Orchestra & Chorus of the Metropolitan Opera, Artur Bodanzky
    Choir and Orchestra of the Bayreuth Festival, Karl Böhm
    Orchestra & Chorus of the Metropolitan Opera House, Karl Böhm
    Bayreuth Festival, André Cluytens 1956
    Bayreuth Festival Orchestra, Andre Cluytens 1957
    Bayreuth Festival Orchestra, Wilhelm Furtwängler
    (in English) Sadlers Wells Chorus & Sadlers Wells Opera Orchestra, Reginald Goodall
    London Philharmonic Orchestra & The Glyndebourne Chorus, Vladimir Jurowski
    Orchestra of the Royal Opera House, Royal Opera Chorus, Bernard Haitink
    Staatskapelle Dresden, Herbert von Karajan
    Rundfunkchor Berlin & Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin, Marek Janowski
    Berlin Opera Orchestra, Eugen Jochum
    Bayerisches Staatsorchester, Bayerische Staatsopernchor, Joseph Keilberth
    Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Rudolf Kempe
    (in Hungarian) Hungarian State Opera Orchestra, Hungarian State Opera Chorus, Otto Klemperer (download)
    Vienna State Opera Chorus & Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Hans Knappertsbusch 1950-51
    Orchestra and Chorus of the Bayreuth Festival, Hans Knappertsbusch 1952
    Choir and Orchestra of the Bayreuth Festspiele, Hans Knappertsbusch 1960
    Berlin State Opera, Franz Konwitschny
    Bayreuth Festival Chorus & Orchestra, Herbert von Karajan
    Orchestra and Chorus of the Bayreuth Festival, Josef Krips
    Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Rafael Kubelik
    Chorus & Orchestra of the Festspielhaus Bayreuth. Erich Leinsdorf
    Orchestra and Chorus of the Metropolitan Opera, Fritz Reiner
    Vienna State Opera, Fritz Reiner
    RAI Milan, Hans Rosbaud
    Orchestra and Chorus of the Metropolitan Opera, Joseph Rosenstock
    Chor und Orchester der Bayerischen Staatsoper, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    The Metropolitan Opera & Chorus, Thomas Schippers (abridged)
    Chicago Symphony Orchestra & Chorus, Georg Solti
    Wiener Staatsopernchor & Wiener Philharmoniker, Sir Georg Solti (BaL choice 2009, & the previous time)
    Chor und Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Silvio Varviso
    Wiener Philharmoniker, Chor der Wiener Staatsoper, Heinz Wallberg



    DVD:

    Chor & Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Daniel Barenboim
    Staatstheater Nürnberg Chorus, Staatsphilharmonie Nürnberg, Marcus Bosch (+Blu-ray)
    Orchestra of the Deutsche Oper Berlin, Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos
    Salzburg Festival 2013, Wiener Philharmoniker, Daniele Gatti (+ Blu-ray)
    London Philharmonic Orchestra, The Glyndebourne Chorus, Vladimir Jurowski (+Blu-ray)
    Metropolitan Opera & Chorus, James Levine
    Chorus of the Hamburg State Opera & The Philharmonic State Orchestra Hamburg, Leopold Ludwig
    Australian Opera Chorus, The Elizabethan Philharmonic Orchestra, Charles Mackerras
    Orchester & Chor der Bayreuther Festspiele, Horst Stein
    Orchestra & Chorus of the Vienna State Opera, Christian Thielemann
    Bayreuther Festspiele Chorus & Bayreuther Festspiele Orchestra, Sebastian Weigle (+Blu-ray)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 20-07-15, 21:33.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Last time around:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F6...thread=6326321

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    • umslopogaas
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1977

      #3
      In addition to versions listed above conducted by Solti, Kempe and Knappertsbusch (on LP), I have an LP set on the HMV Angel label with the Dresden State Orchestra conducted by Karajan. I also have a CD version conducted by Hermann Abendroth, recorded at Bayreuth in 1943. Presumably these are not currently available?

      The CD set is on the Preiser label. The Rough Guide to Opera is very keen on it, though it acknowledges that his collaboration with the Nazis sunk Abendroth's career after the war.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        The later Karajan is on Alpie's list, umsloppy - under "Staatskapelle Dresden". The Abendroth/PREISSLER is still available from online sellers.

        I have both Karajans, Varviso (some very poor singing here), Keilberth and Kubelik on CD and Jurowski on DVD. I had the Jochum on LP, too. Back in the day. Probably won't be spending money on another one, but shall listen with interest - don't think I've heard Mr Baragwanath before.
        Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 12-06-15, 14:39.
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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Back in the day.
          Once or twice upon a time...

          This is quite possibly the opera I'd save if all the rest had to be obliterated from history.

          I have Karajan, Kempe, Kubelik - and Jochum, which was my first and still probably my favourite. DF-D and Placido D seem to be controversial to "Wagnerians" but I don't care, I like the sound they make - and Jochum's way, teasing out the golden skeins of music, gives me goosebumps like no other performance.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • umslopogaas
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1977

            #6
            Preissler? Its spelled Preiser Records on my discs.

            There's a photo of Abendroth on the back of the booklet. He doesnt look like a very nice guy.

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #7
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

              This is quite possibly the opera I'd save if all the rest had to be obliterated from history
              Me too.

              I have Karajan, Kempe, Kubelik - and Jochum, which was my first and still probably my favourite. DF-D and Placido D seem to be controversial to "Wagnerians" but I don't care, I like the sound they make - and Jochum's way, teasing out the golden skeins of music, gives me goosebumps like no other performance.
              Jochum was my intro too. Later to be joined by Sawallisch, Haitink and the Levine/Met DVD.

              I saw the ROH/Haitink production just before the ROH closed in March 1997. I was there the night the power failed during the Prelude, and we thought for a while we were going to be sent home. Things restarted after half an hour, which meant there was an exodus from the Amphitheatre during Act 3 Scene 5. Gösta Winbergh was under the weather that night and was underpowered in Act 3. Alan Blyth is a little ungallant about Nancy Gustafson in the CD booklet. Tomlinson's Sachs about as unlike DFD's in the Jochum as can be imagined, by the time of the revival in 2012 he was singing Pogner. The Sachs I've most enjoyed live was Jose Van Dam in a concert perf. with Zurich, a lovely air of world-weariness about him, I don't know if he's on a recorded version.
              Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 12-06-15, 14:57. Reason: To relieve RT of my annoying blue...

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              • cincinnatus
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                • Mar 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                The later Karajan is on Alpie's list, umsloppy - under "Staatskapelle Dresden". The Abendroth/PREISSLER is still available from online sellers.

                I have both Karajans, Varviso (some very poor singing here), Keilberth and Kubelik on CD and Jorowski on DVD. I had the Jochum on LP, too. Back in the day. Probably won't be spending money on another one, but shall listen with interest - don't think I've heard Mr Baragwanath before.
                Ferney, Mr Baragwanath did Mussorgsky's Songs and Dances of Death in May last year. He's a lecturer at Nottingham University.

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #9
                  Theo Adam, Rene Kollo, Helen Donath, Karl Riddersbusch, Karajan Staatskapelle Dresden et al - THREAD CLOSED.

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                  • Zucchini
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Everyone's dead so far.
                    So Gerald Finley LPO/Jurowski Glyndebourne DVD for me.
                    It was wonderful

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                      Preissler? Its spelled Preiser Records on my discs.
                      Much-missed <doh> emoticon - my bad. (The capitals weren't meant as a "correction", by-the-way: I put record label names in upper case to avoid ambiguity with "a brilliant CD" and "a BRILLIANT recording" )
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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                        • Sep 2011
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cincinnatus View Post
                        Ferney, Mr Baragwanath did Mussorgsky's Songs and Dances of Death in May last year. He's a lecturer at Nottingham University.
                        Oh! He was good! Looking forward even more to it.

                        Many thanks, cincinn
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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                          Everyone's dead so far.
                          So Gerald Finley LPO/Jurowski Glyndebourne DVD for me.
                          It was wonderful
                          Erm - the same one I mentioned in #4, pumpkin?
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                          • makropulos
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                            Everyone's dead so far.
                            So Gerald Finley LPO/Jurowski Glyndebourne DVD for me.
                            It was wonderful
                            It was and it's wonderful.

                            But I'm more than happy to have several earlier versions too, including Böhm (Orfeo), Goodall (Chandos), Karajan (Dresden EMI), Kempe (EMI), Kubelik (Arts), Mackerras (DVD), Matacic (Myto, in Italian), Sawallisch (EMI), Solti (Vienna Decca). I wouldn't want to pick a "best" of those - so many of them are so good.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                              This is quite possibly the opera I'd save if all the rest had to be obliterated from history.

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