BaL 6.06.15 - Nielsen: Symphony no. 3

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    BaL 6.06.15 - Nielsen: Symphony no. 3

    0930
    Building a Library: Nielsen 150
    Andrew Mellor compares recordings of Nielsen's 3rd Symphony, his 'Sinfonia Espansiva', in this his 150th year. It's the only one of his symphonies to include vocal parts, wordless vocal solos for soprano and baritone in the second movement, and is "the most optimistic and characteristically Danish of Nielsen?s symphonies" thinks our reviewer.


    Available versions:

    Royal Danish Orchestra, Paavo Berglund
    Danish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Herbert Blomstedt
    San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, Herbert Blomstedt
    Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, Douglas Bostock
    Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra, Myung-Whun Chung
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Dausgaard (DVD/Blu-ray)
    London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Alan Gilbert
    BBC Northern Symphony Orchestra, Jascha Horenstein
    Janácek Philharmonic Orchestra, Theodore Kuchar
    Ireland National Symphony Orchestra, Adrian Leaper
    Göteborgs Symfoniker, Neeme Järvi (download)
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Tor MannCD/
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Sakari Oramo
    Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Gennady Rozhdestvensky
    London Symphony Orchestra, Ole Schmidt
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Michael Schønwandt
    Danish National Symphony Orchestra, Michael Schønwandt (DVD)
    BBC Philharmonic, John Storgårds
    Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Bryden Thomson (download)
    Danish State Radio Symphony, Erik Tuxen
    BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, Osmo Vänskä
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 06-06-15, 22:24.
  • richardfinegold
    Full Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 7823

    #2
    I'm surprised that the Bernstein version isn't listed, so I'm assuming that it is nla. That recording was probably the introduction to both the work and the Composer for most people in the States.
    i also didn't know that Horenstein had recorded it, so I will investigate that.
    I have the two Blomstedt versions and by coincidence was listening to the Danish version two days ago which I don't think compares to the SFSO version favorably.
    I have the Dausgaard version on a fantastic bargain Blu Ray that also includes Brahms/1, Sibelius/5, and Dvorak New World. The Espansiva may be the best of that disc, or am I perceiving an affinity by the Orchestra for their National Composer.
    It is nice to see Nielsen's Symphonies being considered mainstream.

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    • richardfinegold
      Full Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 7823

      #3
      I just looked on you tube--not only is the Horenstein 3 there, with the BBC Northern Orchestra, but there is also a recording of the 6th with the Halle.

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      • umslopogaas
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1977

        #4
        I have three versions of this symphony, all on LP and only one of which (Schmidt) is listed, so presumably Bernstein/Royal Danish Orch. and Huybrechts/LSO never made it to CD. I dont really want any more, but would like one CD version, so will see what is recommended.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          The Bernstein used to be available on three different CBS/SONY reissues - the first as a CBS Masterworks, the second in the Bernstein "Royal" edition, and as a three-disc set of the complete Symphonies and concertos (with Ormandy conducting the works Lennie missed out, this set in turn was also issued in two different covers). It is a great performance (the one with which I got to know the work) and must be due for a SONY remastering sometime soon.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • richardfinegold
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            • Sep 2012
            • 7823

            #6
            Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
            I have three versions of this symphony, all on LP and only one of which (Schmidt) is listed, so presumably Bernstein/Royal Danish Orch. and Huybrechts/LSO never made it to CD. I dont really want any more, but would like one CD version, so will see what is recommended.

            I am listening to the Bernstein right now on CD. It is coupled with 5.

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            • Roehre

              #7
              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
              ....
              It is nice to see Nielsen's Symphonies being considered mainstream.
              which they weren't until the late 1970s/early 1980s -the Bernstein/Ormandy recordings and the Blomstedt DRSO among the protagonist sets.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                I hear that The John Storgards version/cycle, is rather good. Anyone else know?
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • umslopogaas
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1977

                  #9
                  #6 thanks Richard. It doesnt seem to be listed in the Penguin Guide and may not be available over here, but could you post the manufacturer and serial number of the CD, my trusty CD shop should be able to track it down?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                    which they weren't until the late 1970s/early 1980s -the Bernstein/Ormandy recordings and the Blomstedt DRSO among the protagonist sets.
                    along with the rather wonderful Ole Schmidt/LSO cycle from 1973. Considering the numbers of Sibelius, Mahler and even RVW cycles on offer, Nielsen still "lags behind" in mainstream status - surprising that Rattle didn't record them at the time of his CBSO cycle twenty-odd years ago, for example (aren't there BBC tapes of these concerts?)
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Roehre

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      along with the rather wonderful Ole Schmidt/LSO cycle from 1973. Considering the numbers of Sibelius, Mahler and even RVW cycles on offer, Nielsen still "lags behind" in mainstream status - surprising that Rattle didn't record them at the time of his CBSO cycle twenty-odd years ago, for example (aren't there BBC tapes of these concerts?)
                      Looking at EA's list there aren't many non-scandinavian and/or non-English-speaking conductors/orchestras involved.
                      Janácek Philharmonic Orchestra/Theodore Kuchar being the one full exception....

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                      • Tevot
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1011

                        #12
                        Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra, Myung-Whun Chung



                        Superb symphony and overture imho . Admittedly even after nigh on 30 years the Clarinet Concerto for me remains elusive (as opposed to the Concerto for Flute) - but this is a recording that I cherish

                        Best Wishes,

                        Tevot

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          ...........surprising that Rattle didn't record them at the time of his CBSO cycle twenty-odd years ago, for example (aren't there BBC tapes of these concerts?)
                          I don't think there are any tapes, I think it's simply a case of having to have been there at the time

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            I don't think there are any tapes, I think it's simply a case of having to have been there at the time
                            Possibly. I just have a "memory" of a Saturday night television broadcast of at least one of these concerts, and a documentary ... ring any bells with anyone else?
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • richardfinegold
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                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7823

                              #15
                              Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                              #6 thanks Richard. It doesnt seem to be listed in the Penguin Guide and may not be available over here, but could you post the manufacturer and serial number of the CD, my trusty CD shop should be able to track it down?
                              It is listed as CBS Masterworks, MK44708, the date listed is 1988

                              I am guessing this predates the acquisition of CBS/columbia by Sony.
                              I looked on the Amazon UK site and they were quite dear in price. The US site had much cheaper copies, probably worth paying the extras shipping.

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