BaL 30.05.15 - Mendelssohn: Piano Trio no. 1 in D minor

[Tony Halstead]

... fewer notes, perhaps - but surely not less!

Many thanks for pointing that out, vinteuil.
Duly noted and corrected!

[vinteuil]

... well, it's not really pedantry - it's cos I treasure every good note a horn player can produce, - and I wd hate to think of those notes being considered as less important than the notes so easily produced by those of us who merely have to tickle the ivories...

[Tony Halstead]

Pedants' Corner, vints!

No, not pedantic but exactly 'spot on' as far as the 'French' horn is concerned.

[LeMartinPecheur]

So who won? Did the Suk Trio get a mention? - they hadn't by c9.50 when Mrs LMP dragged me away to look at holiday homes

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

So who won?

Julia Fischer, Daniel Muller-Schott, Jonathan Gilad
(with Heifitz, Piatogorsky & Run=binstein as honorable "historics".)

Did the Suk Trio get a mention? - they hadn't by c9.50 when Mrs LMP dragged me away to look at holiday homes

Not even in passing (unless I missed it).

Another "quite good, but I disagree with the final selection - not violently, I thought it sounded splendid, but found some of the other recordings more interesting" BaL, I thought. I'd like to hear Argerich's "more demonic, less 'cheerful'" performance in full, and I'll be investing in the Goulds and the recording with the original version as a bonus CD - if I can only remember which one it was!!

[vinteuil]

I'll be investing in the Goulds

... yes, I had not realised there were two Gould versions - she didn't rate the naxos version so highly.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

... yes, I had not realised there were two Gould versions

Nor I.

- she didn't rate the naxos version so highly.

No - but did seem quite keen on the latter version, but then never returned to it until the final "round-up", when it was summarily dismissed for reasons that I'm not sure I caught (something to do with being too Classical and not Romantic enough - or possibly vice versa).

[Bryn]

Julia Fischer, Daniel Muller-Schott, Jonathan Gilad
(with Heifitz, Piatogorsky & Run=binstein as honorable "historics".)


Not even in passing (unless I missed it).

Another "quite good, but I disagree with the final selection - not violently, I thought it sounded splendid, but found some of the other recordings more interesting" BaL, I thought. I'd like to hear Argerich's "more demonic, less 'cheerful'" performance in full, and I'll be investing in the Goulds and the recording with the original version as a bonus CD - if I can only remember which one it was!!

I would guess the Argerich is that in the Chamber Music box recently recommended on these very boards. 'twill do for me.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I would guess the Argerich is that in the Chamber Music box recently recommended on these very boards. 'twill do for me.

- with the Capucin brothers. (Available on youTube, too, as are the Heiftz et al and Previn/Mutter ... )

[Barbirollians]

I have the Argerich as well as the legendary Casals/Cortot/Thibaud enough for me

[Nick Armstrong]

Interestingly (to me ), the French critics' blind tasting 'Tribune' considered this Piano Trio in their programme on France-Musique this past weekend. I shall report back once I've heard it...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Interestingly (to me ), the French critics' blind tasting 'Tribune' considered this Piano Trio in their programme on France-Musique this past weekend. I shall report back once I've heard it...

[rkyburz]

Interestingly (to me ), the French critics' blind tasting 'Tribune' considered this Piano Trio in their programme on France-Musique this past weekend. I shall report back once I've heard it...

Spoiler alert: if you want to listen blind to that program, you should stop reading here! Unfortunately, with its latest incarnation, the "Tribune" is going down the drain — but this was one of the better (recent) instances, I think — six versions were compared: the Beaux Arts Trio (1967) was thrown out first, then Abegg Trio (1992), then Trio Suk (1966), then Rubinstein/Haifetz/Piatigorsky (1950), then Istomin/Stern/Rose (1966) — and the winner recording was with the Trio Wanderer (2006), which also was the clear winner in the live audience & in the on-line voting. In the on-line voting, the Beaux Arts recording ranked third, not last.
Too bad they did not consider Voces Intimae, my personal favorite for this (comparing only a narrow selection, though). I should add: in a CD recording, the sound engineer can certainly put the strings in balance with a modern concert grand, but in a live performance, a modern grand is a problem here — not just because of excess volume when played with open lid (as most artists do), but also because it can't compete with a period instrument in terms of transparency and agility — and if you have ever seen Mendelssohn's private concert hall in his last apartment in Leipzig, then it is obvious that a period piano is far more appropriate.

[Nick Armstrong]

Unfortunately, with its latest incarnation, the "Tribune" is going down the drain — but this was one of the better (recent) instances, I think —.....

SPOILER ALERT !!!

Luckily I stopped reading! I like to listen to the podcast 'blind' too....!

Good to know from your first phrase that it's a decent programme. I agree that recent editions have been less good - reduced to 90 minutes, chat for the first 5 or 10 about the previous week's choice, and chat after each extract (it was better when two extracts were played back-to-back each time, and the reviewers commented about both, comparatively).

[rkyburz]

SPOILER ALERT !!!

Luckily I stopped reading! I like to listen to the podcast 'blind' too....!

Sorry — I should have started with a spoiler warning!