BaL 16.05.15 - Mozart: Horn Concertos

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 16.05.15 - Mozart: Horn Concertos

    0930
    Jonathan Freeman-Attwood compares available versions of Mozart's Horn Concertos and makes a personal recommendation.

    Since the great Dennis Brain recorded the Mozart Concertos in the 1950s every self-respecting horn player has wanted to record them, too. With their humour and ear-worm tunes (Flanders and Swann famously tapped into both aspects with their song based on the rollicking finale of the fourth concerto), these ever-popular works are nonetheless full of technical and musical challenges. During an engaging survey Jonathan Freeman-Attwood, Principal of the Royal Academy of Music and himself a distinguished brass player, discovers an international Who's Who of hornists and a rich, sixty-year history of performance practice.

    Available versions:

    Alessio Allegrini, Orchestra Mozart, Claudio Abbado
    Hermann Baumann, St Paul Chamber Orchestra, Pinchas Zukeman
    Dennis Brain, Philharmonia Orchestra, Herbert von Karajan
    Timothy Brown, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Iona Brown (download)
    Jeffrey Bryant, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Thomas Dausgaard
    Alan Civil, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Neville Marriner
    Alan Civil, Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer
    Peter Damm, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
    Pip Eastop, The Hanover Band, Anthony Halstead
    Anthony Halstead, Academy of Ancient Music, Christopher Hogwood
    Anthony Halstead, Hanover Band, Roy Goodman
    Johannes Hinterholzer, Mozarteum Orchestra Salzburg, Ivor Bolton
    Günter Högner, Wiener Philharmoniker, Karl Böhm
    Lin Jiang, Western Australian Symphony Orchestra, Barry Tuckwell
    David Jolley & William Purvis, Orpheus Chamber Orchestra
    R. J. Kelly, American Classical Orchestra, Thomas Crawford
    Ab Koster, Tafelmusik, Bruno Weil
    Albert Linder (horn), Vienna State Opera Orchestra, Hans Swarowski
    Frank Lloyd, Northern Sinfonia, Richard Hickox (download)
    Roger Montgomery, Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment, Margaret Faultless
    Jacek Muzyk, Amadeus Chamber Orchestra of the Polish Radio, Agnieszka Duczmal
    David Pyatt, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
    Eric Ruske, Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Sir Charles Mackerras
    Bruno Schneider, Venice and Padua Chamber Orchestra, Bruno Giuranna
    Gerd Seifert, Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Milos Stevove, Capella Istropolitana, Jozef Kopelman
    Ferenc Tarjani, Budapest Symphony Orchestra, Janos Sandor
    Michael Thompson, Bournemouth Sinfonietta
    Barry Tuckwell, English Chamber Orchestra
    Barry Tuckwell, London Symphony Orchestra, Peter Maag
    Barry Tuckwell, Philharmonia Orchestra
    Sebastian Weigle, Dresdner Philharmonie,
    Paul van Zelm, Combattimento Consort Amsterdam, Jan Willem de Vriend


    Christian Lindberg (hornbone), Tapiola Sinfonietta, Jean-Jacques Kantorow
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 17-05-15, 21:11.
  • Hornspieler
    Late Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1847

    #2
    So what about James Brown, whose recording with the Virtuosi of England (Arthur Davison) on the Classics for Pleasure label sold more copies than any other version?

    Too "Classic FM" to be included?

    HS

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3
      What a waste of time
      It is absolutely clear which is the best version by miles (sorry Roger, i'll buy you a pint )

      Its a shame Arkady Shilkloper hasn't recorded a version

      and what on earth is a "hornist"?

      As David sang with Pat

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #4
        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
        So what about James Brown, whose recording with the Virtuosi of England (Arthur Davison) on the Classics for Pleasure label sold more copies than any other version?

        Too "Classic FM" to be included?

        HS
        It's only available second hand - on vinyl!

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          What a waste of time
          It is absolutely clear which is the best version by miles
          I would say every version is the best, apart from the blood-curdlingly wobbly Peter Damm performance. Unfortunately, it's the only stereo CD version in my library.


          and what on earth is a "hornist"?
          Someone who plays a horn.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            It is absolutely clear which is the best version by miles (sorry Roger, i'll buy you a pint )
            I'm a little taken aback to realize that I have seven recordings (and I used to have the James Brown/VoE/Davison LP that Hs mentions - lovely introduction to the works).

            I have to say that I agree with MrGG's choice (and I shall also chip in a pint for Mr Montgomery )
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

              I have to say that I agree with MrGG's choice (and I shall also chip in a pint for Mr Montgomery )
              I thought he was referring to Tony Halstead.

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              • visualnickmos
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3609

                #8
                Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                So what about James Brown, whose recording with the Virtuosi of England (Arthur Davison) on the Classics for Pleasure label sold more copies than any other version?

                Too "Classic FM" to be included?

                HS
                I love that version - bought when I was just getting into classical music in the early 70s as a gangly young teen! I remember buying it even, at the same time I bought Mozart's syms 29 and 39 with Colin Davis (also CfP) and had to borrow a few bob from my Mum who happened to be with me at the time, to make up the price!!!! Bit of luck, that was..... but yes it is a lovely version, and very good sound, too. I play WAM's horn concertos when I want to 'feel good' - works every time. The sheer exuberance, then plaintiff, then stately, then almost serenade-like; these 4 concertos have everything..... I never tire of hearing them - and this CfP version in particular.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  I thought he was referring to Tony Halstead.
                  I think (in a sense) he was; but his pint for "Roger" was (I believe) bought for Mr Montgomery?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • visualnickmos
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    What a waste of time
                    It is absolutely clear which is the best version by miles (sorry Roger, i'll buy you a pint )

                    Its a shame Arkady Shilkloper hasn't recorded a version

                    and what on earth is a "hornist"?

                    As David sang with Pat
                    Forgive my dumbness, but it's not at all clear to me - must be my 'brain'.......?

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                      Someone who plays a horn.
                      IN America

                      Same Brown?

                      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                      Get up


                      (David and Pat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJRF...4&spfreload=10)

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                      • Tony Halstead
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1717

                        #12
                        Hmm... who is 'miles'?
                        Shouldn't his given name be graced by a capital 'M'?

                        A 'hornist' is a USA horn player.

                        Seriously, though, in addition to the fine James Brown Classics for Pleasure LP ( did it ever appear on CD?) there are several other distinguished recordings, some of which are indeed on CD and others only on LP, presumably not included in EA's list ( and JF-A's?) for the simple reason that they are currently UNAVAILABLE ( a somewhat loaded word).
                        These include:
                        Timothy Brown (hand horn), OAE, Kuijken
                        Hermann Baumann (hand horn), VCM, Harnoncourt
                        Dale Clevenger (a central European chamber orchestra, can't remember exactly which)
                        Radovan Vlatkovic , ECO, Tate
                        Barry Tuckwell, ASMF, Marriner
                        Alan Civil, Philharmonia, Klemperer
                        Ernst Muelbacher, VSO


                        I do hope that Dr Freeman-Attwood will do the sensible thing - unlike most presenters - and compare the 'valve-horn / modern horn' recordings during a separate, dedicated portion of the allotted time, thereby staying pitch-wise in the general area of A=440, before proceeding to a comparison of the hand-horn/ valveless ones in the general pitch area of A=430. It can be nauseating when a reviewer plays extracts that lurch up and down in pitch from modern to H.I.P.P recordings, with the inevitable result that the 'old-instrument' low-pitch performances sound dull and lifeless compared to their modern counterparts.

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                        • Tony Halstead
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1717

                          #13
                          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                          Forgive my dumbness, but it's not at all clear to me - must be my 'brain'.......?
                          I think Mr GG was referring to Pip

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tony View Post
                            I think Mr GG was referring to Pip
                            Absolutely

                            Tremendous recording and the perfect balance of extraordinary technique and musicianship

                            (even though some of the others are worth listening to as well )

                            I also have
                            Mason Jones with Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra from 1969 (CBS)
                            Last edited by MrGongGong; 08-05-15, 13:37.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              Absolutely
                              Thought so.

                              Tremendous recording and the perfect balance of extraordinary technique and musicianship.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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