BaL 2.05.15 - Scriabin: Prometheus (Poem of Fire)

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    #31
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    Not this one in posh skool! :)
    Good to know that the parents are getting value for money out of their no doubt extortionate fees then, bbm!
    Extra servings of spotted dick and custard as a BH school dinner treat? Or are desserts posh there too?

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    • BBMmk2
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #32
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Good to know that the parents are getting value for money out of their no doubt extortionate fees then, bbm!
      Extra servings of spotted dick and custard as a BH school dinner treat? Or are desserts posh there too?

      Ordinary skool c
      uisine for the kids separate room for the staff and food too(most of the time!)
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • ardcarp
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11102

        #33
        When the Mayday Bank Holiday was first introduced by the Labour Government (c.1978?) I was extremely annoyed that independednt schools chose to ignore it. Firstly it makes them appear partisan when they shouldn't be, and secondly everyone should enjoy a National Bank Holiday regardless of its origin. Can you imagine anyone in France passing up the opportunity for a saint's day knees-up on the mere pretext of being atheist?

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37602

          #34
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          bank holiday mode
          Phrygian, by the feel of things

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #35
            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
            When the Mayday Bank Holiday was first introduced by the Labour Government (c.1978?) I was extremely annoyed that independednt schools chose to ignore it. Firstly it makes them appear partisan when they shouldn't be, and secondly everyone should enjoy a National Bank Holiday regardless of its origin. Can you imagine anyone in France passing up the opportunity for a saint's day knees-up on the mere pretext of being atheist?
            They gave us all a day off on EMPIRE DAY at my fascist boarding school... and this, in the 1960s!!!

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
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              #36
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              They gave us all a day off on EMPIRE DAY at my fascist boarding school... and this, in the 1960s!!!
              I remember the Empire Games in Cardiff in 1958.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
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                #37
                But what about Scriabin and his music?

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                • waldo
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 449

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  I remember the Empire Games in Cardiff in 1958.
                  My mother's best friend broke her nose in the Empire swimming pool in Cardiff. She dived head-first into the shallow end..........

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by waldo View Post
                    My mother's best friend broke her nose in the Empire swimming pool in Cardiff. She dived head-first into the shallow end..........
                    That sounds horrible. I hope she recovered.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #40
                      I was staggered by this music today. As for the Hollywood Ending… well, Scriabin invented it. Hollywood just copied.

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                      • waldo
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                        • Mar 2013
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        That sounds horrible. I hope she recovered.
                        Yes. I think this must have happened in the early sixties. I gather there was a fair bit of reconstructive surgery - teeth were involved, too - but she went on to lead a happy, prosperous life. It might have helped that she had wealthy parents. I used to think of it every time I passed the pool on the bus home......

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                        • ardcarp
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #42
                          ...but back to Scriabin. Clearly a phenomenon; a force of Nature even. But he does keep one's nose to the emotional grindstone. No easy listening!

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26523

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            But what about Scriabin and his music?

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            ... neither work is Scriabin at his best IMO... the "Hollywood conclusion" of Prometheus requires an entire mine of salt!
                            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                            ...but back to Scriabin. Clearly a phenomenon; a force of Nature even. But he does keep one's nose to the emotional grindstone. No easy listening!
                            Oh dear. Another BaL that's not going to cost me anything (silver lining). Over the years I've tried and tried not least because there are pieces of early Scriabin that I love - especially the early piano pieces, parts of the piano concerto, and I also went through a big phase of listening to his first symphony... in the Muti version: Bbm, I agree
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            Muti is one of the few conductors that can really "pull off" Scriabin's work.
                            - as does Mr Mival it seems.

                            But.

                            I cannot get past the impression that Scriabin in his latter years is the musical equivalent of a pub bore with a megaphone (and too much booze inside him). Hearing all those relentless climaxes repeatedly on BaL did nothing to help, in fact.

                            I could hear that the chosen versions were better than the others but...

                            Not a piece I'll ever want to hear at home. Maybe live, by the right team (Jurowski/LPO for instance) - although I have heard it live once and it left me wanting to ... find a different pub.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Bryn
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                              Not a piece I'll ever want to hear at home. Maybe live, by the right team (Jurowski/LPO for instance) - although I have heard it live once and it left me wanting to ... find a different pub.
                              Never have guesed you were a Fosters ("bland and inoffensive") man.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26523

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Never have guesed you were a Fosters ("bland and inoffensive") man.
                                Mine's a pint of Old Thumper, actually, if you're buying, Bryn!

                                Or a Broadside, failing that
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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