There are a hatful of Argerich recordings and I suspect I have all of them but the original LSO/Abbado has never been surpassed.
BaL 14.02.15 - Ravel: Piano Concerto in G
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostThere are a hatful of Argerich recordings and I suspect I have all of them but the original LSO/Abbado has never been surpassed.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostThere are a hatful of Argerich recordings and I suspect I have all of them but the original LSO/Abbado has never been surpassed.
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Originally posted by Maclintick View PostCali, that slight delay in the right-hand you object to is truly HIPP. Here's Marguerite Long shortly after the G major concerto's premiere...
Marguerite Long (1874-1966) plays Ravel Piano Concerto II Pde.F-Branco Rec.1932It was assumed that this recording was a conducted by the composer at very lon...
Many pianists of that vintage & later employ the same technique to either expressive or ruinous effect, according to one's personal predilection, & for me it doesn't disqualify Michelangeli/Philharmonia/Gracis from equal honours with Argerich/BPO/Abbado, which enjoys more refined DG sound. Samson/OSCC/Cluytens is also required listening, despite being holed below-the-waterline by agogic hesitations in the adagio & the failure of OSCC woodwind to agree on tuning, but is eclipsed by the blistering account of the Left Hand Concerto with which it's coupled -- that second cadenza !
A regular broadcaster on France-Musique is Philippe Cassard, no mean pianist himself (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Cassard - only in French, but the names in his track record speak for themselves). He is often very damning about the Marguerite Long 'school' of playing, and in particular her playing of Ravel. It's a fashion thing, I suppose... but I do agree about the split hands. Perhaps it's like portamento for string players? Very much of its era and awfully HIPP but ..."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Alison View PostThe Benjamin Grosvenor version is pretty impressive though I didn't have a big craze on it upon purchase unlike the Yundi Li and Bavouzet versions. Tortelier really is a fine accompanist on the Chandos disc."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostHow interesting you too pick those two out, Alison. I couldn't stop listening to the Yundi Lee / Ozawa slow movement - wonderfully paced and phrased. Not for the first time we are in accord!Last edited by Alison; 07-02-15, 18:20.
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Michelangeli for me. There's a passage of quiet trills towards the end of the first movement, where he manages the almost impossible and makes them sound like glissandi, absolutely gliding from one note to the next. Unsurpassed.
I first heard this concerto on the Jacqueline Blancard recording with Ansermet, taking it out of a library and "learning" it. Last year I heard it again after an interval of at least 50 years, and I'm sorry to say that it really isn't very good!
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Originally posted by Alison View PostWell, not so surprising when we both received a similar musical education at the Royal Festival Hall !"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostDo you mean you were at that hammer-fisted German's performance? Can you remember who it was? (maybe PM, if so - might be legally safer!)
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Originally posted by Alison View PostNo, I mean our attendance at LPO concerts (and others) down the years has given us a certain taste for what's good and what's not quite so good ....
Cheating on them on Thursday, however, to hear what Dame Mitsuko makes of it!
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostI think I'm right in recalling that in their 2011 programme on the piece, the French critics chose 'blind' the Argerich/BPO/Abbado performance as the favourite. I do remember they gave short shrift to the Michelangeli/Gracis version which I found gratifying as I've never liked it and always found its status as a 'towering classic of the gramophone' incomprehensible.
Mike
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