BaL 31.01.15 - Beethoven: Symphony no. 3 in E flat "Eroica"

[Beef Oven!]

Today's Eroicas that I listened to were:

Wynn Morris, LSO - Pickwick
Roy Goodman, Hanover Band - Nimbus
JEG, OR&R - Archiv

All great, IMV. Gardiner tops though.

[Tony Halstead]

Roy Goodman, Hanover Band - Nimbus

Did you enjoy/ notice/ hate the various wrong notes in the horns that the 'non-interventionist' but nevertheless annoying, opinionated and doctrinaire 'producer' decided not to edit out ? ( although in the actual sessions those mistakes were re-taken and could have been patched in..)
After the CD was released, when I asked him why he had left the wrong notes in the 'final edit' he said 'because it's a good "Nimbus thing to do"!

[makropulos]

Going off at a slight tangent, this thread has made me think about live concerts including the Eroica that have left a strong memory on me.

Among others that really stand out:
Böhm/VPO on tour in London 1972/3ish.
Jochum/VPO (Jochum standing in for an indisposed Böhm), c.1982 (at the Albert Hall, with the Jupiter Symphony in the first half)
Mackerras/Philharmonia in 2008

and one huge disappointment (especially as he's a conductor I usually admired a lot)
Solti/Chicago SO at the RFH, with the Rite of Spring in the second half.

What about other good "Eroica" memories in concerts?

[Beef Oven!]

Did you enjoy/ notice/ hate the various wrong notes in the horns that the 'non-interventionist' but nevertheless annoying, opinionated and doctrinaire 'producer' decided not to edit out ? ( although in the actual sessions those mistakes were re-taken and could have been patched in..)
After the CD was released, when I asked him why he had left the wrong notes in the 'final edit' he said 'because it's a good "Nimbus thing to do"!

I enjoyed the performance very much indeed. I did not notice any wrong notes, but then I tend to go with the flow of the music and have a high tolerance for technical imperfections, born out of ignorance!

You are on the recording?

[visualnickmos]

Just listening to Monteux's LvB 3 - from the two Decca DoubleDecca sets. Seems like he didn't record the 9th - at least it's not in the sets I just mentioned.

This was the first Eroica I ever bought as a lad - Decca 'World of Classics' I think, with a close-up of detail from the Arc de Triomphe, full-bleed on the sleeve. Quite a belter of a performance, loving it after not hearing this one for some years. It's very red-blooded...
Still have it

[visualnickmos]

I enjoyed the performance very much indeed. I did not notice any wrong notes, but then I tend to go with the flow of the music and have a high tolerance for technical imperfections, born out of ignorance!

You are on the recording?

Me too - best way, IMO.

Sit back and enjoy, that's the ticket

[Barbirollians]

Just listening to Monteux's LvB 3 - from the two Decca DoubleDecca sets. Seems like he didn't record the 9th - at least it's not in the sets I just mentioned.

This was the first Eroica I ever bought as a lad - Decca 'World of Classics' I think, with a close-up of detail from the Arc de Triomphe, full-bleed on the sleeve. Quite a belter of a performance, loving it after not hearing this one for some years. It's very red-blooded...
Still have it

There is a recording of the Ninth that was on Westminster - it is quite extraordinary especially the first movement tempo wise .

[visualnickmos]

Cheers for the info, Barbirollians.

[Tony Halstead]

I enjoyed the performance very much indeed. I did not notice any wrong notes, but then I tend to go with the flow of the music and have a high tolerance for technical imperfections, born out of ignorance!

You are on the recording?

Yes indeed...
'I am Spartacus'
'I am Spartacus'
'I am Spartacus' etc etc....

[Karafan]

There is a recording of the Ninth that was on Westminster - it is quite extraordinary especially the first movement tempo wise .

Yes, Barbs, just the way I 'completed' my Monteux LvB cycle as well. I do love his way with Beethoven. The second from that survey is especially pleasing.

K.

[Petrushka]

Going off at a slight tangent, this thread has made me think about live concerts including the Eroica that have left a strong memory on me.

Among others that really stand out:
Böhm/VPO on tour in London 1972/3ish.
Jochum/VPO (Jochum standing in for an indisposed Böhm), c.1982 (at the Albert Hall, with the Jupiter Symphony in the first half)
Mackerras/Philharmonia in 2008

and one huge disappointment (especially as he's a conductor I usually admired a lot)
Solti/Chicago SO at the RFH, with the Rite of Spring in the second half.

What about other good "Eroica" memories in concerts?

I was present at the VPO/Jochum concert you mention. It was actually given in March 1982 (the 11th I think) and was the second of two concerts they gave, the first being in the RFH (Mozart 33, Bruckner 7). The Eroica was a terrific performance and I was lucky to meet Jochum after that very concert, and still have the signed programme. Incidentally, Böhm may well have been intended as the original conductor but as he died in August 1981 he was a bit more than indisposed.

[makropulos]

I was present at the VPO/Jochum concert you mention. It was actually given in March 1982 (the 11th I think) and was the second of two concerts they gave, the first being in the RFH (Mozart 33, Bruckner 7). The Eroica was a terrific performance and I was lucky to meet Jochum after that very concert, and still have the signed programme. Incidentally, Böhm may well have been intended as the original conductor but as he died in August 1981 he was a bit more than indisposed.

Thanks for the reminder of when that Jochum Eroica happened (with six horns! - as you'll remember too). And yes, Böhm was, alas, rather more than indisposed - I'd forgotten the date.

[Petrushka]

Thanks for the reminder of when that Jochum Eroica happened (with six horns! - as you'll remember too). And yes, Böhm was, alas, rather more than indisposed - I'd forgotten the date.

Yes, those six horns caused a bit of a fuss in the newspaper reviews but what a splendid sound they made. Both of the 1982 VPO concerts were broadcast and I live in hope that a recording will one day surface.

[gurnemanz]

Here's another bit of a tangent: I remember an exciting concert given by Roger Woodward at York University Music Dept in 1972. It consisted of Takemitsu and Scriabin in the first half followed by the Hammerklavier. Each work was bathed in different light - yellow, green and purple, as I remember. Soon after, I bought an interesting-looking LP of Woodward playing Liszt's Eroica transcription.
I thought Woodward was a marvellous pianist and still have the LP but have not heard very much about him since.

[teamsaint]

Here's another bit of a tangent: I remember an exciting concert given by Roger Woodward at York University Music Dept in 1972. It consisted of Takemitsu and Scriabin in the first half followed by the Hammerklavier. Each work was bathed in different light - yellow, green and purple, as I remember. Soon after, I bought an interesting-looking LP of Woodward playing Liszt's Eroica transcription.
I thought Woodward was a marvellous pianist and still have the LP but have not heard very much about him since.

Just sticking on this tangent, for a moment , here he is playing some Takemitsu.

Lots of extremely interesting stuff on his website too, as well as elsewhere on the web.
Interesting interview here.

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Jan10/Roger_Woodward.htm

fascinating comment about his support for human rights, and the cost to his career.