BaL 10.01.15 - Dvorak: String Quartet no. 12 "American"

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20564

    BaL 10.01.15 - Dvorak: String Quartet no. 12 "American"

    0930
    Building a Library
    Robert Philip compares recordings of Dvorak's much-loved String Quartet no. 12, known as the American Quartet, and makes a personal recommendation.

    Available recordings:

    Amadeus Quartet
    Apollon Quartet
    Arioso Quartett
    Berliner Philharmoniker Quartet
    Brodsky Quartet
    Budapest String Quartet
    Carmina Quartet
    Cavani Quartet (download)
    Cleveland Quartet
    Cypress String Quartet
    Duke Quartet (download)
    Emerson String Quartet
    Quatuor Enesco
    Griller Quartet
    Hagen Quartett
    Hagen Quartett (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Hollywood String Quartet
    Hungarian String Quartet
    Janáček Quartet
    Jerusalem Quartet
    Keller Quartet
    Kontra Quartet
    Kumho Asiana String Quartet
    Lindsay Quartet
    Lipkind Quartet (download)
    Ma'alot Quintett
    Miró Quartet (download)
    Quintette Moragues
    Moyzes Quartet (download)
    Netherlands String Quartet
    Panocha Quartet
    Pavel Haas Quartet
    Prague String Quartet
    Prazak Quartet
    Sacconi Quartet
    Schidlof Quartet
    Ševcík-Lhotský Quartet
    Serafin String Quartet
    Simon Bolivar String Quartet
    Stamitz Quartet
    Talich Quartet
    Tokyo String Quartet
    Vanbrugh Quartet
    Vlach Quartet Prague
    Vogler Quartett
    Wihan Quartet
    Zemlinsky Quartet

    Other arrangements:-

    Royal Flemish Philharmonic Wind Quintet
    Modern Mandolin Quartet
    Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Charles Rosekrans
    The Zurich Oboe Quartet
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-02-15, 13:45.
  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7687

    #2
    Paavel Haas Quartet on Supraphone for me. Lovely music making.

    We heard them play the last movement as an encore at their Edinburgh Festival Concert this year. The first violinist told us they had to get up at 05.00 to get an uncluttered photo off them on the Charles Bridge!

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    • Black Swan

      #3
      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
      Paavel Haas Quartet on Supraphone for me. Lovely music making.

      We heard them play the last movement as an encore at their Edinburgh Festival Concert this year. The first violinist told us they had to get up at 05.00 to get an uncluttered photo off them on the Charles Bridge!
      Same here for me.

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      • Madame Suggia
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 189

        #4
        Talich Quartet on Calliope

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11529

          #5
          I like the PH Quartet very much but just find their slow movement a trifle fast - Hollywood Quartet for me on Testament a magical record .

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          • Don Petter

            #6
            Yup. Hollywood for me as well.

            I see I have CD versions of (at least)

            Budapest (original members)
            Griller
            Hollywood
            Italiano (live)
            Janacek
            Portland
            Royal Phil
            Talich

            and, in addition, on LP

            Aeolian
            Amadeus
            Drolc
            Gabrieli
            Italiano (studio)
            Juilliard
            Prague
            Smetana
            Vlach

            I wonder how many of these will still be available on alp's list?

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            • visualnickmos
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3608

              #7
              I have the Vlach and Prague as complete sets, and the Moyzes and Skampa as individuals. I particularly like the Vlach and Prague recordings.

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              • verismissimo
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2957

                #8
                Until, one day several years ago, we were strolling in Oakland, California, in search of Robert Louis Stevenson places, I had assumed that the N-word was nowadays unacceptable everywhere. But what was I hearing on that warm summer’s day, the streets thronged with cheerful black Americans, but that word finishing just about every sentence uttered.
                It seemed somehow… unfair. Totally off-limits to white folks, but apparently commonplace among the black community. A kind of punishment – self-imposed? ‒ for past (and also present) sins.
                Of course, when words become unavailable, new ones have to take their place, not necessarily quite accurately. In this quartet Dvořák is said to have included melodies he had heard from both African-Americans and from Native Americans while on vacation in Spillville, Iowa, in 1893. The writing poured out of him ‒ on the last page of the score he wrote: ‘Thank God! I am content. It went fast.’
                Clearly acknowledging Dvořák’s sources of inspiration, it was called by common consent the ‘Nigger Quartet’. These days it is universally known as the ‘American’, which rather misses the point.

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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7357

                  #9
                  When CDs came in I got the Bartók Quartet's versions of Debussy, Ravel to supplement a well-worn LP from the Quartetto Italiano. I had seen the Bartóks live a few years before and been impressed. At the time I was in cost-cutting mode with mortgage and kids and it was on the very cheap Hungaroton White label and gave good value by also including Dvorák's American. It turned out to be a favourite CD and it is still my only version of Debussy and Ravel. Only quite recently did I get another "American" - via the very good Stamitz complete box on Brilliant. Not on Alp's list but I see it is newly available as a download.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11529

                    #10
                    Although it is deleted i should also put in a good word for the marvellous recording by the Delme Quartet in Pickwick .

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                    • richardfinegold
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 7541

                      #11
                      I have so many versions, because it frequently comes as a filler on String Quartet discs. When I actually want to hear it, I reach for the Julliard mid 1960s, on an old lp, and not on Alpiie's list.

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                      • Don Petter

                        #12
                        Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                        I reach for the Julliard ...
                        I leave the Juilliard.

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                        • aeolium
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3992

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
                          Talich Quartet on Calliope
                          For me also, MS (though even better imv are their performances of the last two quartets, the op 105 and the op 106)

                          I'd particularly like to hear the Prazak and, from historic recordings, the Griller in this work.

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                          • Don Petter

                            #14
                            Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                            For me also, MS (though even better imv are their performances of the last two quartets, the op 105 and the op 106)

                            I'd particularly like to hear the Prazak and, from historic recordings, the Griller in this work.
                            The Griller performance is available on the Dutton site (and probably elsewhere), c/w Bloch and Mozart:

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                            • visualnickmos
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3608

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              Although it is deleted i should also put in a good word for the marvellous recording by the Delme Quartet in Pickwick .
                              Absolutely; and it's coupled with a fantastic recording of Brahms's Clarinet Quintet with Keith Puddy. I love this CD.

                              Is he (Keith Puddy) still around? I don't know anything much about him; not a name that comes up very often...

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