BaL 20.12.14 - Beethoven Piano Trio in D Op.70 no. 1 "The Ghost"

[Bryn]

It's up now, Jean-Guihen Queyras (cello), Daniel Sepec (violin), Andreas Staier (fortepiano).

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

that was the bad acoustic not my cuppa at all ...

[aeolium]

missed the ending but the discussion reminded me how much i find Pressler utterly compelling in anything .... and to my continuing surprise, how much i find i like Ashkenazy's playing - who won? [not on website yet]

Why do you find it surprising, calum? I think he's a wonderful pianist and love that version.

This was one of those BaL's where most of the extracts played sounded pretty good to me, in their different ways. Florestans and Busches/Serkin stood out among those I was not familiar with. It was a shame that we couldn't hear any (IIRC) of Stern/Istomin/Rose which is also fine.

[verismissimo]

It's up now, Jean-Guihen Queyras (cello), Daniel Sepec (violin), Andreas Staier (fortepiano).

And Suk Trio as 'historic' choice.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Why do you find it surprising, calum? I think he's a wonderful pianist and love that version.

This was one of those BaL's where most of the extracts played sounded pretty good to me, in their different ways. Florestans and Busches/Serkin stood out among those I was not familiar with. It was a shame that we couldn't hear any (IIRC) of Stern/Istomin/Rose which is also fine.

yes it was full of treats

Ashkenazy somehow was placed by me on the wrong side of my prejudice and i have been in recovery ever since .... a phenomenon i find common as one ages ... one's prejudices melt rather ... of course one or two harden and indeed arrive but with music i find that it is mainly idiocy melting [if that is not too great a claim]

[visualnickmos]

.....It was a shame that we couldn't hear any (IIRC) of Stern/Istomin/Rose which is also fine.

I think you do indeed, RC - it is a very fine recording. Maybe it's 'out of print?' That, and Ashkenazy/Perlman/Harrell are the two I enjoy the most.

[Don Petter]

I think you do indeed, RC - it is a very fine recording. Maybe it's 'out of print?' That, and Ashkenazy/Perlman/Harrell are the two I enjoy the most.

It's still showing as an Amazon UK import - See my post #2

[visualnickmos]

It's still showing as an Amazon U\K import - See my post no.2

I have it on a single CD, as well as a box set - but admittedly I've had them for years.... maybe harder to come by now?

[MLF]

It's up now, Jean-Guihen Queyras (cello), Daniel Sepec (violin), Andreas Staier (fortepiano).

This week's laureate is available as part of the following boxed set, which is, as one reviewer notes, an unholy bargain:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Musique-Lumières-Music-Enlightenment-Limited/dp/B005BZBY1I/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1419108243&sr=1-1&keywords=lumieres

[Don Petter]

This week's laureate is available as part of the following boxed set, which is, as one reviewer notes, an unholy bargain:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Musique-Lumi...words=lumieres

But not playing the work in question? The only trio I can see there is Opus 1, No.3.

[MLF]

But not playing the work in question? The only trio I can see there is Opus 1, No.3.

Mea culpa - yes, you are quite right. I am sure I have this week's winning disc as part of a compilation set already and thought it was there. Hmmm... Must rummage further.

Still a good boxed set, though.

[kea]

Enjoying this. Not sure why it's not attracted boarders thus far.

Chamber music. No one likes it.

I actually used to own the Ashkenazy/Perlman/Harrell recordings. Don't remember why I got rid of them (possibly Perlman). My current picks in the Beethoven trios are Florestan and Parnassus, slightly preferring the former; no specific choice in this particular trio. I do remember that HM's latest HIP outings, Sepec/Queyras/Staier (70/1, 1/3 and a violin sonata? don't remember exactly) and Faust/Queyras/Melnikov (70/2 and 97) have underwhelmed me for reasons that are difficult to put into words.

The Castle Trio's also supposed to be good. & didn't Beths, Bylsma & Immerseel do 70/1 with the Archduke? or was that 70/2?

[amateur51]

Chamber music. No one likes it.

Gollox!

Perhaps people are just a tad busy with other things at the moment?

I've lined up this edition of CDR for this afternoon, after I've been shopping

[Roehre]

Chamber music. No one likes it...

Wait for Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli

[Roehre]

Enjoying this. Not sure why it's not attracted boarders thus far.

BUT... It's Dorothea von Ertmann, not Marie, who was pianist at its premiere. Also Op 101 was dedicated to her - she was a favourite pianist of the composer. Curiously, she was the aunt of Mathilde Marchesi and taught her to play Beethoven on a daily basis.

And George Marek concluded (1969) Dorothea von Ertmann [whom Beethoven addressed as "My Dorothea Cecilia"] was a serious candidate for the "Immortal Beloved" (and though his conclusion is likely to be incorrect, he provided the basis for Solomon's research leading to the identification of Antonia Brentano as a very, very serious option)