BaL 6.12.14 - Bach: 4 Orchestral Suites (BWV 1066-69)

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    #61
    Mark L may be a bit HIPP-obsessed, but he certainly knows his onions - highly informative.

    So far, very good.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #62
      Oops. Missed it. Who 'won'?

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6488

        #63
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Oops. Missed it. Who 'won'?
        Freiburger

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        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 9173

          #64
          i find that Bach's major pieces are never definitively nailed, even in a library sense; one always wants to hear another version .... new recordings offering revelations and old favourites tugging heart strings etc ... lovely BAL ... i want them all!
          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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          • Tony Halstead
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1717

            #65
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Freiburger
            I do wish that ML had played some more of the Boston/ Parrott version; the short extract that we heard sounded really wonderful.
            Also, I think it's a great pity that the AAM and Egarr always play Bach ( and others - Handel maybe?) at that silly pitch a WHOLE TONE lower than A 440.
            'Authentic' it may be, but when compared to the other 2 versions in ML's short-list, the AAM sounded quite drab and grey.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #66
              Originally posted by Tony View Post
              I do wish that ML had played some more of the Boston/ Parrott version; the short extract that we heard sounded really wonderful.


              ... along with the Cafe Zimmerman (enthusiastically mentioned on this Thread, but mentioned only in passing by ML) the versions I'm most interested in buying.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #67
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                Freiburger
                Thanks Alison. Was any reference made to the slight clicking noise which is reported in one customer review as amazon.co.uk? All 11 people rating that review found it helpful, so I guess it might well be there.

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                • MickyD
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4876

                  #68
                  I've just read that review about the clicking noise, Bryn...I had a listen to it and it sounds to me like the noise coming from the keys/mouthpiece of the bassoon when it has an important part to play. Maybe the microphone was too close, and I have to say that it would irritate me on repeated listenings and dissuade me from this set. (You can hear it on track 2 of the samples on Amazon).

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #69
                    Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                    I've just read that review about the clicking noise, Bryn...I had a listen to it and it sounds to me like the noise coming from the keys/mouthpiece of the bassoon when it has an important part to play. Maybe the microphone was too close, and I have to say that it would irritate me on repeated listenings and dissuade me from this set. (You can hear it on track 2 of the samples on Amazon).
                    Yes, I had a listen via Qobuz and came to a similar conclusion. By the way, contrary to the impression given in the BaL survey, the Petite Band set from the early '80s is very much available, and very cheaply as part of a boxed set (£6.53 including p&p) via the amazon.co.uk marketplace:

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                    • tigajen

                      #70
                      A very interesting BAL but I shall stay with the Marriner,just as sprightly but with more "feeling"

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                      • MickyD
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4876

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Yes, I had a listen via Qobuz and came to a similar conclusion. By the way, contrary to the impression given in the BaL survey, the Petite Band set from the early '80s is very much available, and very cheaply as part of a boxed set (£6.53 including p&p) via the amazon.co.uk marketplace:

                        Yes, I got this just a few months ago, and it is a very nice set indeed.

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                        • Tony Halstead
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1717

                          #72
                          Originally posted by tigajen View Post
                          A very interesting BAL but I shall stay with the Marriner,just as sprightly but with more "feeling"
                          OK, congratulations, 'stay with'
                          Wrong instruments
                          Wrong pitch
                          20th century "feeling"
                          Lack of 'hierarchical stresses' ( and 'non stresses')
                          Good luck!

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                          • gurnemanz
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7445

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                            ... along with the Cafe Zimmerman (enthusiastically mentioned on this Thread, but mentioned only in passing by ML) the versions I'm most interested in buying.
                            It was odd to mention Cafe Zimmermann without comment (at least none that I heard). I would have been genuinely interested in his opinion. It possibly counted against them that the Suites are spread over different CDs, (as indeed are the Brandenburgs).

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                            • tigajen

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Tony View Post
                              OK, congratulations, 'stay with'
                              Wrong instruments
                              Wrong pitch
                              20th century "feeling"
                              Lack of 'hierarchical stresses' ( and 'non stresses')
                              Good luck!
                              Rathet patronising! Why should I need luck? Each to his own

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20578

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Tony View Post
                                OK, congratulations, 'stay with'
                                Wrong instruments
                                Wrong pitch
                                20th century "feeling"
                                Lack of 'hierarchical stresses' ( and 'non stresses')
                                Good luck!
                                That kind of put-down isn't helpful. It's quite possible to put forward counter-arguments to insult the kind of performances that you may prefer.

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