BaL 25.10.14 - Strauss: Oboe Concerto

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 25.10.14 - Strauss: Oboe Concerto

    9.30 a.m.
    Building a Library: Strauss 150
    Sarah Devonald with a personal recommendation from recordings of Richard Strauss's charming, late Oboe Concerto

    Available versions:

    John Anderson, Philharmonia Orchestra, Simon Wright
    Douglas Boyd, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Paavo Berglund
    Manfred Clement, Staatskapelle Dresden, Rudolf Kempe
    Simon Fuchs, Tonhalle Orchestra, David Zinman
    Martin Gabriel, VPO, Andre Previn
    Frantisek Hantak, Brno State Philharmonic, Martin Turnovsky
    Heinz Holliger, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
    Heinz Holliger, Cincinnati SO, Michael Gielen
    Heinz Holliger, New Philharmonia Orchestra, Edo de Waart
    Gordon Hunt, Berlin Radio SO, Vladimir Ashkenazy
    Alex Klein, Chicago SO, Daniel Barenboim
    Lothar Koch, BPO, Herbert von Karajan
    Leon Goossens, Philharmonia Orchestra, Alceo Galliera
    Yeon-Hee Kwak, Muncher Rundfunkorchester, Johannes Goritzki
    Francois Leleux, Swedish Radio SO, Daniel Harding
    Lajos Lencses. Stuttgart Radio SO, Sir Neville Marriner (download)
    Alf Nilsson, Stockholm Sinfonietta, Neeme Jarvi
    Pauline Oostenrijk, Residentie Orchestra Den Hague, Neeme Jarvi
    Louise Pellerin, Bienne SO, Thomas Rosner
    Evelyn Rothwell, Halle Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli
    Hansjorg Schellenberger, BPO, James Levine (download)
    Stefan Schilli, Bavarian Radio SO, Mariss Jansons
    Jonathan Small, RLPO, Gerard Schwarz
    Hans-Werner Watzig, Berlin Radio SO, Heinz Rogner (download)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 26-02-15, 15:30.
  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7759

    #2
    A wonderful, bittersweet piece that never fails to move me every time I hear it.

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    • visualnickmos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3610

      #3
      A surprisingly(?) high number of recordings..... of a very charming piece. I was 'taken' with it when I discovered it in the EMI big box Kempe Strauss set...

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      • Roehre

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        9.30 a.m.
        Building a Library: Strauss 150
        Sarah Devonald with a personal recommendation from recordings of Richard Strauss's charming, late Oboe Concerto

        Available versions:

        John Anderson, Philharmonia Orchestra, Simon Wright
        Douglas Boyd, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Paavo Berglund
        Manfred Clement, Staatskapelle Dresden, Rudolf Kempe
        Simon Fuchs, Tonhalle Orchestra, David Zinman
        Martin Gabriel, VPO, Andre Previn
        Frantisek Hantak, Brno State Philharmonic, Martin Turnovsky
        Heinz Holliger, Chamber Orchestra of Europe
        Heinz Holliger, Cincinnati SO, Michael Gielen
        Heinz Holliger, New Philharmonia Orchestra, Edo de Waart
        Gordon Hunt, Berlin Radio SO, Vladimir Ashkeazy
        Alex Klein, Chicago SO, Daniel Barenboim
        Lothar Koch, BPO, Herbert von Karajan
        Leon Goossens, Philharmonia Orchestra, Alceo Galliera
        Yeon-Hee Kwak, Muncher Rundfunkorchester, Johannes Goritzki
        Francois Leleux, Swedish Radio SO, Daniel Harding
        Lajos Lencses. Stuttgart Radio SO, Sir Neville Marriner (download)
        Alf Nilsson, Stockholm Sinfonietta, Neeme Jarvi
        Pauline Oostenrijk, Residentie Orchestra Den Hague, Neeme Jarvi
        Louise Pellerin, Bienne SO, Thomas Rosner
        Evelyn Rothwell, Halle Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli
        Hansjorg Schellenberger, BPO, James Levine (download)
        Stefan Schilli, Bavarian Radio SO, Mariss Jansons
        Jonathan Small, RLPO, Gerard Schwarz
        Hans-Werner Watzig, Berlin Radio SO, Heinz Rogner (download)
        Do they mention which ending is used, or whether they offer both?

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        • Black Swan

          #5
          I have always loved this work and have the Gordon Hunt/Berlin Radio SO/Ashkenazy. Which also has the Duett-Concertino for Clarinet and Bassoon as well as the Violin Concerto.

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #6
            Originally posted by Roehre View Post
            Do they mention which ending is used, or whether they offer both?
            Hello Roehre please can you expand on this? We attended a superb performance by BBC NOW with Francois Leleux, the programme notes mention that after the first performance in Switzerland Strauss revised and extended the coda of the finale by 11 bars - is this what you refer to, and does anyone play the first performance version?

            The programme notes (by Michael Kennedy) say "It was a sign of Switzerland's coolness towards Strauss at this juncture of his life that he was allocated a seat at the back of the hall. As the orchestra assembled, a woman in the front row noticed the composer, went up to him and led him to her seat".

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #7
              Originally posted by Roehre View Post
              Do they mention which ending is used, or whether they offer both?
              I don't know about that. Perhaps the Goossens, Rothwell and other early versions might show a variance?

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12250

                #8
                I've only known this piece for a few years having unaccountably let it pass me by and the first recording I heard was from Richard Woodhams with the Philadelphia Orchestra and Wolfgang Sawallisch (which I see isn't listed - presumably nla). I've since heard the Kempe with Manfred Clement (excellent) but my favourite of those I've heard is Lothar Koch with Karajan and the BPO.

                A wonderful and charming work that deserves to be heard more often than it is.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #9
                  I shall put my head on the block by declaring this work to be the finest oboe concerto ever written. I have great affection for those by Mozart, Vaughan Williams and Mathias too, the Strauss is in a class of its own. I first heard it in Sheffield City Hall in the mid-60s, performed by Evelyn Rothwell, the Halle and Barbirolli. It was one of those occasions that can never be erased from the memory.

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    I shall put my head on the block by declaring this work to be the finest oboe concerto ever written...
                    That sounds right, Alpie. The question is - why are there so few fine concertos for this powerful, plaintive instrument?

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11682

                      #11
                      So the splendid Neil Black version on Sony must be deleted ?

                      Getting my versons mixed up referring to ASV - which is where the equally excellent Boyd/Berglund recording was from .
                      Last edited by Barbirollians; 18-10-14, 09:30.

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        I don't know about that. Perhaps the Goossens, Rothwell and other early versions might show a variance?
                        I'm sure the Goossens/PO/ Galliera is the earlier version. It was recorded in Sept 1947.
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26536

                          #13
                          Love the piece, though the oboe is far from being my favourite instrument.

                          I have the Lothar Koch/BPO and Manfred Clement/Dresden recordings - not sure I'm in the market for another unless it really is astonishing.

                          I'd be interested to hear the Hansjörg Schellenberger performance: I heard the BPO several times live when he was principal oboe and his astonishing tone, musicianship and charismatic presence shone out from the orchestra, almost to a fault - I remember thinking that almost all pieces sounded a bit like oboe concertos when he was playing!

                          Enjoyed this performance, at 2pm on Wednesday afternoon on R3, while driving... Sounded ok on the M20 anyway!

                          14.00
                          Strauss
                          Oboe Concerto in D
                          Olivier Doise (oboe)
                          Radio France Philharmonic Orchestra, Myung-Whun Chung (conductor)
                          Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 17-10-14, 22:49.
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12250

                            #14
                            I find the story of the genesis of the Oboe Concerto quite touching. As the Second World War entered its final phase in 1944/5 the elderly composer retreated to his house in Garmisch and took to reflecting on Mozart. It was there that, quite by chance, John de Lancie, an oboist with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra serving with the American forces met the composer and asked him if he'd ever thought of writing a concerto for the oboe to which the answer was 'no'. Three months later, long after de Lancie had left Garmisch he read in a magazine interview with Strauss that he was currently working on an oboe concerto at the prompting of an American GI!

                            Given this story, I'm surprised that John de Lancie (who later became principal oboe in the Philadelphia Orchestra) didn't record the work.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26536

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                              I find the story of the genesis of the Oboe Concerto quite touching. As the Second World War entered its final phase in 1944/5 the elderly composer retreated to his house in Garmisch and took to reflecting on Mozart. It was there that, quite by chance, John de Lancie, an oboist with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra serving with the American forces met the composer and asked him if he'd ever thought of writing a concerto for the oboe to which the answer was 'no'. Three months later, long after de Lancie had left Garmisch he read in a magazine interview with Strauss that he was currently working on an oboe concerto at the prompting of an American GI!

                              Given this story, I'm surprised that John de Lancie (who later became principal oboe in the Philadelphia Orchestra) didn't record the work.
                              Well Ms Derham recounted that story, but gave a rather garbled account of the first performance - having said that de Lancie was principal oboist of the Pittsburgh Symphony, she went on to say that, although Strauss had given him the rights to play it, he couldn't because of his junior position in "his orchestra" and hence he gave the rights to a colleague in another orchestra (Mitch Miller?) who took the solo part; and that de Lancie didn't get to play it till after he retired... Derham helpfully put it down to "Sod's Law" which didn't really help clarify matters.

                              It's here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04l36bx

                              Anyone know what actually happened?
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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