BaL 11.10.14 - Shostakovich: Symphony no. 10 in E minor

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

In this age of pasteurised homogeneity in mainstream orchestral sounds I love a nice dollop of Eastern European brass wobble too

Though I agree with the general sentiment, when horns wobble, it is so distracting that it takes over in my brain and I can "hear" nothing else.

[Barbirollians]

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Jarvi gets it again; pacing is just about ideal in all movements, sound is typically spacious but can still wow people in a hifi demo(try that scherzo.!!). I have others (Barshai, Ancerl, Karajan) but Jarvi is the one I come back to more than any other. The others he did are just as recommendable and it's one of the great pities that he didn't finish the Chandos cycle.

I agree the Gothenburg DG recordings generally did not reach the same standard . It is was my first recording of the work and remains terrific .

[Bryn]

Back around 1989 I had the good fortune to find the Chandos discs of Neeme Jarvi's DSCH 1 & 6, 4, 7, 9, 10 and the Violin Concertos at a stall off Charring Cross Road. They were priced at £3 each. The discs of 5 and 8 were also there at the time but, impoverished part-time student on Enterprise Allowance as I was, I had to choose 6 discs from the 8 available. Comments on whether I should now stump up for those discs of 5 and 8 would be most welcome. From the various reviews I have read, they are not quite up there with his recording of the 10th.

[Pianoman]

To my ears, thats a fair assessment; the Fifth is pretty good ( I still prefer Lenny here in his live NYPO) but the Eighth is no match for Haitink ( among others) in my view, whereas all the others are benchmarks for me, even that very fast Leningrad. It may be the strings in 8 (can't quite remember, it's that long ago I last heard it..) but something didn't gel.

[gradus]

I'd never heard the Jarvi before the excerpts played today but I thought the french horn playing was wonderful and the ending ripped along just as it should. Did Karajan get a mention?

[Alison]

No gripes this week then?

The actual broadcast seems to have generated very little comment.

Not listened yet: I will also be interested in what was said about Karajan.

[Beef Oven!]

I 'listened again' this afternoon. IIRC, there was a snip from Karajan's earlier analogue DG recording (scherzo) and it was said that this earlier release was the better one from K.

I recently bought the Jarvi, have played it 3 times and still prefer K's digital DG release.

[aeolium]

I'd never heard the Jarvi before the excerpts played today but I thought the french horn playing was wonderful and the ending ripped along just as it should. Did Karajan get a mention?

I missed the start of the BaL but heard an extract from the earlier Karajan version, which IIRC was praised but then SJ said something like "but I get the feeling that this was the kind of performance that Stalin would have enjoyed" (words to that effect anyway).

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I missed the start of the BaL but heard an extract from the earlier Karajan version, which IIRC was praised but then SJ said something like "but I get the feeling that this was the kind of performance that Stalin would have enjoyed" (words to that effect anyway).

It's a bit like football commentators telling us exactly what the referee is saying to a player on the pitch when on reality, he has absolutely no idea of what is being said.

[MLF]

No gripes this week then?

The actual broadcast seems to have generated very little comment.

Not listened yet: I will also be interested in what was said about Karajan.

I have ordered the Jarvi recording - I certainly liked what I heard this morning. I was a little surprised that Petrenko did not feature more - particularly when this week's reviewer evidently rates him (as evidenced by his selection of VP's recording of DSCH's 8th last year).

[soileduk]

As a small aside,but seeing as we are in the spirit of things, if a chap were to be in possession of not only the Jarvi/RSNO Shostakovich Symphony 4 but the Raiskin /SRPPSM, the Rattle /CBSO, the Sinaisky /BBC Phil, the Kitajenko /GOK and the Barshai /WDR SO would he still be in need of the Petrenko /RLPO set?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

As a small aside,but seeing as we are in the spirit of things, if a chap were to be in possession of not only the Jarvi/RSNO Shostakovich Symphony 4 but the Raiskin /SRPPSM, the Rattle /CBSO, the Sinaisky /BBC Phil, the Kitajenko /GOK and the Barshai /WDR SO would he still be in need of the Petrenko /RLPO set?

Depends on who "he" is, and how "need" is defined.


Personally, I'd wonder why he had neither of the Haitinks.

[amateur51]

Depends on who "he" is, and how "need" is defined.


Personally, I'd wonder why he had neither of the Haitinks.

Nor those by Kondrashin?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Nor those by Kondrashin?

Indeed!



Not really helping soileduk's aside, are we?

[teamsaint]

Indeed!



Not really helping soileduk's aside, are we?

He'll soon have enough for eleven aside , if you lot keep on.