BaL 11.10.14 - Shostakovich: Symphony no. 10 in E minor

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #61
    HvK's first recording on DG,i s the one I have grown up with. Although Ido have Barshai, Haitink and Jansons.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20578

      #62
      This is regarded as one of the composer's finest works. But although I have recordings and the score, I still don't really "get it". Maybe a BaL discussion will help.

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      • slarty

        #63
        There is a another great interpretation by Karajan, but it can't be included in the BaL, however it is freely available to everyone -

        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


        Karajan conducting the Dresden Staatskapelle at the Salzburg Festival 1976 in excellent stereo broadcast sound - worth a listen!

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26601

          #64
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          I see that USSR State Symphony Orchestra/Svetlanov is on EA's list. I wish this was the Melodiya recording that appeared on an EMI LP as ASD2420. I've been wanting a CD issue for years but it never appears.
          Oh I so agree. I've scanned the catalogues for 30 years hoping this comes out in a pristine CD remastering. I have a CD version prepared from LP by a mate, with clicks and pops inevitably... better than nothing... but Why oh Why doesn't someone do a proper job on it. Aren't Melodiya recordings now being refreshed and brought out anew by some company.

          Because this was the second DSCH LP I ever bought, also in 1975 Pet... (the first having been the Ormandy 15). I played it over and over - the first movement of the Svetlanov performance of 10 has never been equalled I think (though that may be partly due to my familiarity) - he brings out a deep modulation later on in the movement which is like a tectonic shift and showed me how music can completely change one's mood and outlook on life, as I listened to it in a darkened room during difficult adolescent days..

          Can't believe it's never been released on CD
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • HighlandDougie
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3131

            #65
            The 1966 Svetlanov is available as a - legitimate - download in reasonable quality. If m' learned friend looks in his mail in the next few days, he might get a pleasant surprise ....

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #66
              Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
              The 1966 Svetlanov is available as a - legitimate - download in reasonable quality. If m' learned friend looks in his mail in the next few days, he might get a pleasant surprise ....
              Where from?

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              • HighlandDougie
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3131

                #67
                Have a look at



                HMV! Who would have thunk it. I'd forgotten what a good performance it was (my copy of the LP disappeared aeons ago).

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26601

                  #68
                  Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                  Have a look at



                  HMV! Who would have thunk it. I'd forgotten what a good performance it was (my copy of the LP disappeared aeons ago).
                  WOW! HD.... you star!! And I prefer the download over a CD anyway!

                  Thank you so much!!
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20578

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    And I prefer the download over a CD anyway!
                    Well, you would be able to tell the difference with a Melodiya recording.

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                    • LeMartinPecheur
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4717

                      #70
                      Resolutions prompted by this thread:
                      1) Replay the Svetlanov LP from my ancient SLS Melodiya box set of the 15 symps;
                      2) Play a tatty Heliodor resissue of the Ancerl that I picked up for £1.25 and haven't yet spun (or even cleaned);
                      3) Kick belated lumps out of self for getting rid of the Ormandy LP, probably when I bought the said SLS box as a student! (Though IIRC the CBS LP sound was horribly thin and bass-light, as usual...)
                      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20578

                        #71
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        Resolutions prompted by this thread:
                        1) Replay the Svetlanov LP from my ancient SLS Melodiya box set of the 15 symps;
                        That box is considered quite desirable in the 2nd hand LP market.

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                        • LeMartinPecheur
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4717

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          That box is considered quite desirable in the 2nd hand LP market.
                          on googling!
                          Should have looked after my box a bit better The discs are fine though...
                          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26601

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            Well, you would be able to tell the difference with a Melodiya recording.


                            You can certainly tell the difference between the 320kbps HMV download (which I now have and have been listening to) and the previous home-made download from an LP - you can't hear the first few bars of strings for the LP pops and crackles!

                            So is the USSR/Svetlanov mentioned in your #1 list this 60s one or the later digital one recorded in Japan....? Because if the latter is also still available, perhaps a slight emendation to the list is desirable?
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20578

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                              So is the USSR/Svetlanov mentioned in your #1 list this 60s one or the later digital one recorded in Japan....? Because if the latter is also still available, perhaps a slight emendation to the list is desirable?
                              Neither of these. It's a RAH Prom on 21 August 1968.

                              I've amended the list in a vague fudge.

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                              • Petrushka
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12389

                                #75
                                Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                                Have a look at



                                HMV! Who would have thunk it. I'd forgotten what a good performance it was (my copy of the LP disappeared aeons ago).
                                Woo hoo! Thanks HD. All I need now is a tutorial in how to download it

                                I bought this Svetlanov and the Karajan LP's on the same day (August 12 1975) in the week that Shostakovich died and strongly preferred the Svetlanov.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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