BaL 2.04.11 Bach: St John Passion

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 2.04.11 Bach: St John Passion

    9.30am Building a Library: Bach St John Passion. Simon Heighes recommends a recording.

    An appropriate BaL, with Easter not far away.

    Bach Choir - Willcocks
    Taverner Consort and Players - Parrott
    Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra - Munchinger
    Ricercare Consort - Pierlot
    Cappella Amsterdam & Orchestra of 18th Century - Bruggen
    Leipzig Rundfankchor, Staatskappelle Dresden - Shreier
    Choir of King's Colleg, Cambridge, Brandenburg Consort - Cleobury
    Yorkshire Baroque Soloists - Seymour
    Netherlands Bach Society - Veldhoven
    La Chapelle Rhenane - Haller
    Concentus Musicus, Wein - Harnoncourt
    Concerto d'Amsterdam, La Furia - Meel
    Joe Littlewood (treble), James Bowman (alto), James Gilchrist (Evangelist), Matthew Beale (tenor), Eamonn Dougan (Pilate), Colin Baldy (bass)Choir of New College Oxford & Collegium Novum, Edward Higginbottom
    English Baroque Soloists, Monteverdi Choir - Gardiner
    Ensemble Vanitas, Coro delaa Radio Suizzera - Fasolis
    English Chamber Orchestra - Britten
    Collegium Vocale Gent - Herrewghe
    Kolner Kammerchor, Collegium Cartusianum - Newmann
    Ensemble Vocal et Instrumental de Lausanne - Corboz
    Chorus und Symphonique des Bayerischen Runfunks - Jochum
    Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Vienna Singakademie - Lehmann
    arr. Schumann Rheinishe Kantorei, Das Kleine Konzert - Max
    Kolner Kantorei, JC Bach Akademie - Hempfling
    Stuttgart Bach Collegium - Rilling
    Leipzig Thomaner Choir, Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra - Ramin
    Wandsworth School Choir, London Bach Society, Steinitz Bach Players - Steinitz
    Bach Collegium Japan - Suzuki (*review was confined to recent releases only)
    The Sixteen Choir and Orchestra - Christophers
    Halle Madrigal Singers, Virtuosi Saxoniae - Guttler
    Colon Theatre Orchestra and Chorus - Kleiber
    Leipzig St Thomas Church Choir, Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra, Schreier - Rotzsch
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 19-06-11, 09:24.
  • VodkaDilc

    #2
    Simon Heighes is always excellent. Let's hope he's allowed to do a 'traditional' format BAL, without patronising chitchat with the host!
    My particular favourite: Veldhoven - (with Munchinger in reserve for when I feel like a more traditional performance.)

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      I'm going to stick my neck out here and say Jeggers! :) Although I didn't realise that New College Oxford had made a recording??
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • tantris

        #4
        Gardiner is the most perfect performance for me. But my secret love is the Forster Berlin recording, with Grummer, Ludwig. Wunderlich. Fischer-Dieskau etc. Stunning.

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        • Rupert P Matley

          #5
          Looking forward to this as well, but Dunedin Consort? I know they have a St. Matthew Passion released on Linn, but wasn't aware of a St. John. Is this a new recording?

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20572

            #6
            Originally posted by Rupert P Matley View Post
            Looking forward to this as well, but Dunedin Consort? I know they have a St. Matthew Passion released on Linn, but wasn't aware of a St. John. Is this a new recording?
            A mistake on my part, I'm afraid. I'll delete this (and the RVW version) from the list

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            • Rupert P Matley

              #7
              Shame. I would have gone out and bought it!

              I have Gardiner and Christophers on CD and Suzuki on DVD. Happy with all three!

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              • gurnemanz
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7405

                #8
                I have only one version (not listed above) and would recommend it. Bach's own choir, the Thomaner, the Gewandhausorchester and Schreier marvellous as the Evangelist.



                I may be biassed. I taught English in Leipzig for four years and among the delights of living there was to attend choral performances at the Thomaskirche ........and meeting my future wife. We heard the St John a couple of times under Rotzsch.

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                • MickyD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 4808

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  I'm going to stick my neck out here and say Jeggers! :) Although I didn't realise that New College Oxford had made a recording??
                  I find the New College Oxford recording very satisfying indeed.

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    #10
                    I've had Harnoncourt for years and acquired Parrott last year. Really love the latter - with Rogers Covey-Crump and David Thomas.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20572

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                      I have only one version (not listed above) and would recommend it. Bach's own choir, the Thomaner, the Gewandhausorchester and Schreier marvellous as the Evangelist.
                      It's listed now. Thanks for that.

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #12
                        Looking at the list of versions being reviewed, I think to myself 'what an impossible task'. The reviewer will presumably be seeking something that approaches an intangible perfection, but how can he be sure his own own preferences (eg boys' voices, women's voices, period instruments, big choirs, big orchestras, small ditto ditto, fast tempi, slow tempi, etc, etc)) do not hold sway? I suppose the only honest way is to sweep aside the whole 'performance practice' thing and just go for what touches his heart. It's bound to be a very personal thing, especially perhaps for the St John, and I predict some interesting debate whatever the final choice.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20572

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                          Looking at the list of versions being reviewed, I think to myself 'what an impossible task'.
                          This is always the case, but the older the work, the greater the problem. In the end, it all comes back to one person's view, which is why I continue to have doubts about the single review BaL.

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                          • DoctorT

                            #14
                            I still prefer the single-presenter BaL. I don't always agree with the 'winner,' but provided the presenter gives the reasons for his/her choice, I generally find it worth listening to. Looking forward to Saturday!

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rupert P Matley View Post
                              Shame. I would have gone out and bought it!

                              I have Gardiner and Christophers on CD and Suzuki on DVD. Happy with all three!
                              Suzuki on DVD?
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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