BaL 5.07.14 - Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice

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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12961

    #46
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    … preferable without a castrato
    ... why so? - it wd be marvellous to have a good performance using a castrato, surely?

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    • umslopogaas
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1977

      #47
      Well ... whether or not it would be marvellous is something you should ask the castrato!

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #48
        Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
        I'd want something a bit more HIP.
        Do you mean, Don B, that the Berlioz edition of OeE won't be/isn't HIP, or that the JEG/Monteverdi Choir/Orch de l'Opéra de Lyon recording thereof won't be?

        I don't know the recording either but saw a lovely performance by WNO of the Berlioz version a few years ago with Katerina Karnéus as Orphée, cond. McCreesh. As I understand it, Berlioz knew both the 1762 Vienna and 1774 Paris versions inside out, and his 1859 version represents a fusion of the directness of the former and lyrical beauty of the items added for Paris.

        My only CD (of Orfeo ed Euridice) is the legendary Baker/Leppard/Glyndebourne version, but these days I think you have to be of a certain age or to have experienced Leppard's realisations in all their glorious novelty back then to appreciate them - they don't get far with the teenage reviewers on BAL these days.

        I prefer mezzo to tenor here.....I did once have a Tito Schipa CD that included Che faro..... -

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        • richardfinegold
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          • Sep 2012
          • 7756

          #49
          I only have Monteux. Definitely not HIPP.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20576

            #50
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            Do you mean, Don B, that the Berlioz edition of OeE won't be/isn't HIP, or that the JEG/Monteverdi Choir/Orch de l'Opéra de Lyon recording thereof won't be?

            I don't know the recording either but saw a lovely performance by WNO of the Berlioz version a few years ago with Katerina Karnéus as Orphée, cond. McCreesh. As I understand it, Berlioz knew both the 1762 Vienna and 1774 Paris versions inside out, and his 1859 version represents a fusion of the directness of the former and lyrical beauty of the items added for Paris.
            A kind of hybrid HIPP?

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            • Don Basilio
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              • Nov 2010
              • 320

              #51
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ..

              EDIT - I don't know it, but the René Jacobs - Bernarda Fink / Veronica Cangemi is tempting -

              http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LI2L6JS.
              Indeed. Does it include a libretto?

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20576

                #52
                It appears we already have a BaL on this topic, so I've merged them.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11771

                  #53
                  Not having wanted to listen to the opera as a whole I now have two vintage versions - Ferrier in Holland in 1951 sends shivers down the spine . Although she only had two operatic roles this is vocal acting of a very high order . Shame the rest of the cast are nowhere near her level . Immensely moving Che Puro Ciel and Che Faro and terrific in the recitatives too.

                  Now for Shirley Verrett.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11771

                    #54
                    The reissued Verrett conducted by Renata Fasano from 1966 is thrilling stuff - orchestra a bit big band but leagues ahead of the the stilted accompaniments poor Kathleen Ferrier got from Bruck and especially Stiedry ( who she wanted to brain with her lyre) .

                    Verrett is terrific.

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                    • richardfinegold
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 7756

                      #55
                      Our local station was playing the Runnicles/San Francisco Opera version during my drive home. It didn’t do much to replace the Monteux in my affection

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