BaL 3.05.14/5.11.22- Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto no. 1 in B flat minor

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  • cloughie
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    • Dec 2011
    • 22239

    #16
    Fantastic list alps but like the man watching the decorator I hesitate to say you've missed a bit and indeed they may be unavailable:
    Berman BPO Karajan
    Cherkassky BPO Ludwig
    Ciccolini PCO Cluytens
    Devoyon PO Dutoit
    Dichter SWFSO Latham-Koenig
    Gilels NYPO Mehta
    Gutierrez LSO Previn
    Istomin PhO Ormandy
    Joselson PhO Ormandy
    Katchen LSO Gamba
    O'Hara RPO Judd
    Pennario LAPO Leinsdorf
    Schiff A CSO Solti
    Sevidov RussPO Friedmann
    Sgouros LPO Weller
    Watts NYPO Bernstein

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20578

      #17
      This always happens. However, I think you'll find the Cherkassky/Ludwig one is already on the list.
      As for the Ciccolini, this may be the first one I ever had on LP, but I'm uncertain of the orchestra and conductor.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20578

        #18
        Talking of HIPP versions, there isn't yet really a piano big and grand enough to do this work justice.

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        • Don Petter

          #19
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          As for the Ciccolini, this may be the first one I ever had on LP, but I'm uncertain of the orchestra and conductor.

          Probably the Cluytens, as above? There was another with the ONRF and Silvestri which was in the 'Rarissimes de Aldo Ciccolini' 2CD set, but, as the title suggests, this was less well known.

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          • visualnickmos
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3617

            #20
            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
            Richter, surely?
            You know that; I know that!!!

            But................ in reality, it's a very open field. Choose your favourite.

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            • Black Swan

              #21
              I have multiple Argerich recordings and for me that is enough. I may listen to get a perspective.

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11882

                #22
                Favourites

                Argerich - Abbado, just shades Kondrashin and Dutoit

                Horowitz with Barbirolli

                Ogdon /Barbirolli

                Solomon both with Dobrowen and incandescent in Kansas

                Gilels whenever and with whoever

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22239

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  This always happens. However, I think you'll find the Cherkassky/Ludwig one is already on the list.
                  As for the Ciccolini, this may be the first one I ever had on LP, but I'm uncertain of the orchestra and conductor.
                  Yes your brush had already visited!

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #24
                    I have a real soft spot for:



                    This is mainly due to having sampled the opening to use for the performance by John Tilbury of Hugh Shrapnel's Houdini Rite at the Purcell Room, back in the early '70s. That Tilbury/Scratch Orchestra performance was clearly the origin of:

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                    • CallMePaul
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                      • Jan 2014
                      • 808

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      King Olaf would have been easier.
                      So would Tchaik 2 - for my money a far greater work than the first, but most people (self included) cannot whistle or hum a single bar! I still have the old EMI LP by Sylvia Kirsenbaum which alerted many people to its greatness. Until then it had usually been heard in a heavily mutilated edition for which Siloti has to be thanked(?).

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20578

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        Yes your brush had already visited!
                        Er, no. Whenever a post is edited, a note appears at the end in italics.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20578

                          #27
                          Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                          So would Tchaik 2 - for my money a far greater work than the first, but most people (self included) cannot whistle or hum a single bar! I still have the old EMI LP by Sylvia Kirsenbaum which alerted many people to its greatness. Until then it had usually been heard in a heavily mutilated edition for which Siloti has to be thanked(?).
                          I too prefer the 2nd concerto.

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11882

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            I too prefer the 2nd concerto.
                            I don't . Charming work as it is it does go on too long albeit it did not deserve Siloti's butchery.

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                            • silvestrione
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1738

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              Talking of HIPP versions, there isn't yet really a piano big and grand enough to do this work justice.

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                              • Lento
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                                • Jan 2014
                                • 646

                                #30
                                "a closer analysis shows that the themes of the three movements are subtly linked" (Wikipedia, quoting Francis Maes)

                                Well, that's all right, then.

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