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  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 11129

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Building a Library is an almost task for reviewers, but somebody has to do it.

    Which works would forumites feel most able to tackle, if, unlikely as it may seem, the BBC were to ask you to prepare a BaL programme in two week's time.

    I'd probably go for:

    Elgar 1, The Kingdom & The Apostles
    VW 1 & 5
    Mozart 40

    and maybe a Strauß tone poem

    Other works might take a little longer.
    Almost what, Alpie? Impossible, perhaps?

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20576

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Almost what, Alpie? Impossible, perhaps?

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      • Flosshilde
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7988

        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        Almost what, Alpie? Impossible, perhaps?
        Pleasurable?

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        • ardcarp
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11102

          Answering Alpie's question, I'd hate to review mainstream repertoire with squillions of available recordings. Apart from the impossibility of listening to everything in two weeks, one would be sure to be criticised for not playing extracts of everything and for choosing a quirky outsider.

          I think I'd go for a Britten opera...maybe A Midsummer Night's Dream. Not too many versions; and choices could be made on matters of the composer conducting or not and who's singing (Pears or not...Deller or not). In other words, quite a limited field of versions and a limited set of criteria to decide upon.

          Otherwise, I'd choose a catch-all topic, again with limited recordings, e.g. Biber Masses.

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          • EdgeleyRob
            Guest
            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            Weinberg symphonies.
            Easy peasy for me.
            There isn't a poor recording of any of them,an expert might disagree.
            I'd recommend them all.

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            • Pulcinella
              Host
              • Feb 2014
              • 11129

              Having done a mini BaL for the Stravinsky Symphony of Psalms (Summer BaL 33) I can vouch for the time taken to listen with the score to hand, but also for the extra insights you get from doing so.
              Sadly I have neither sufficient (creditable/credible, depite Caliban's endorsement of the final choice!) musical critical skills nor a decent enough pair of ears to do justice to anything more substantial, but I would love someone to undertake BaLs for Pulcinella (the work: both complete and suite), and also the Symphony in C and Symphony in three movements. Any takers for next summer?

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              • pastoralguy
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7820

                Should BaL be extended to an hour?

                I'm sure I'm not the only person here who feels that BaL is quite constricted by its 40 to 45 minute time slot. I suppose the time limit would have been set in the far distant past when there were comparatively few recordings of even the most popular works. However, times have changed and there are often far too many recordings to be considered. The 'pre-weed' style outdoor be kept but I do wish longer extracts could be considered.

                The only time I can remember there being an hour given was on 4 consecutive weeks when each component part of the 'Ring' cycle was discussed.

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8838

                  Yes IMVVHO

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11129

                    And in my not so humble opinion too.
                    But at the same time bring back Interpretations on record!

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26575

                      Yes!
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25235

                        If a work is worth giving this treatment, then it must justify an hour.


                        However, I would suggest a fine for the presenter if they go over the hour.......
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          "The 'Pre-Weed' style"?? (Well, it is quite early for a Saturday.)

                          Yes, please (I think that there have been some hour-long non-Wagner editions more recently - or perhaps I just disagreed with the presenter.) But not for the twofers - or at least have two people who know what they're talking about discussing the recordings: the Andrew McGregor Show format of "oh, isn't it lovely", "don't you think it's a little slow?", "not bad for 1970s sound", "Kindly take your hand off my knee" is such a waste of everyone's time!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • EdgeleyRob
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            And in my not so humble opinion too.
                            But at the same time bring back Interpretations on record!
                            Yes,or even replaced by a return of IOR.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20576

                              Extended BaLs would help:

                              a) When there's a vast number of recordings of a popular work
                              b) When the work being reviewed is long or complex
                              c) When a work has a good number of HIPP and unHIPP versions to discuss, enabling choices in each category.


                              I recall William Mival only getting to the "summit" in Strauss's Alpine Symphony, and his allotted time was up, so he had to skimp over the rest in a minute or so. The Ausklang deserves an hour to itself!

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                              • pastoralguy
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7820

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                "The 'Pre-Weed' style"?? (Well, it is quite early for a Saturday.)

                                !
                                You know, if there's, say, 250 versions of Beethoven's 5th, a reviewer can't discuss ALL of them so some pre show weeding has to happen.

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