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  • Petrushka
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12309

    Most of us on the Forum have a high degree of knowledge of the record catalogue and have long ago decided on our favourite versions of the work under review, so we aren't the target audience for BaL in the way we were when impecunious students deciding how best to spend our hard-earned cash, in my case back in the early 1970s.

    I rarely listen to the programme now, but do so if the subject is a work I don't know well (or at all) and want to know more. The last one I heard was Sarah Willis doing the honours with the Strauss Horn Concerto No 2, a brilliant programme that completely fulfilled expectations.

    The sheer volume of recordings of the classical repertoire now available renders the entire format of BaL as outdated and absurd. How can a 45 minute slot on, say, a Tchaikovsky or Beethoven symphony come to any meaningful conclusion about a 'winner'?

    Having said that, I still think there is a place on Radio 3 for a comparative review programme that helps give guidance to those in the same position as I was 50 years ago but the BaL format as it stands now isn't it. Perhaps an 'Interpretations on Record' kind of programme, taken out of 'Record Review', without the concept of a 'winner' and given to a broadcaster with some authority on the work might fulfil these requirements?
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8833

      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

      Some of the general ‘BAL format’ comments from the last 2 or 3 specific threads could perhaps be moved over here? If you think it a good idea, I’d be happy to have a go at that.
      Go for it Rumpole .....

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37816

        Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

        Some of the general ‘BAL format’ comments from the last 2 or 3 specific threads could perhaps be moved over here? If you think it a good idea, I’d be happy to have a go at that.
        Can't say I envy you!

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26573

          Originally posted by antongould View Post
          Go for it Rumpole .....
          I shall await EA’s imprimatur
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26573

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Go for it Rumpole .....
            I’ve moved such general ‘could do better’ posts as I could see from the last few months’ BAL threads (having received Alpie’s go-ahead)

            If there are any others that need moving, please draw them to my attention.
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
              I’ve moved such general ‘could do better’ posts as I could see from the last few months’ BAL threads (having received Alpie’s go-ahead)

              If there are any others that need moving, please draw them to my attention.
              You are clearly a workaholic, Nick. Many thanks for this tidying up.

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26573

                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                You are clearly a workaholic, Nick.
                I think it’s the first time that has ever been suggested! But thanks!

                It didn’t take very long, in fact. I know that there are others some while back after the dreaded ‘twofer’ format became a fixture but I can’t remember when that was (and wonder if the archaeological work to find such older posts is useful - the arguments are summarised in some of the posts which are now up-thread here).
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8833

                  Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                  I think it’s the first time that has ever been suggested! But thanks!

                  It didn’t take very long, in fact. I know that there are others some while back after the dreaded ‘twofer’ format became a fixture but I can’t remember when that was (and wonder if the archaeological work to find such older posts is useful - the arguments are summarised in some of the posts which are now up-thread here).
                  Legend ......

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                  • verismissimo
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2957

                    Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                    I’ve moved such general ‘could do better’ posts as I could see from the last few months’ BAL threads (having received Alpie’s go-ahead)

                    If there are any others that need moving, please draw them to my attention.

                    Now I've just read them all again. Grrrr!

                    Thanks, Nick. :)

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20573

                      My thanks added too. Moving posts requires careful judgement, as the original thread can be disrupted by the omission.

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                      • LMcD
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8644

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        My thanks added too. Moving posts requires careful judgement, as the original thread can be disrupted by the omission.
                        My thanks, too Nick - I'm sure your labours have not been in vain, as there are probably plenty of comments and suggestions to come on this subject!

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                        • kernelbogey
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5803

                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                          I’ve moved such general ‘could do better’ posts as I could see from the last few months’ BAL threads (having received Alpie’s go-ahead)....
                          ...So I woke up to find I'd started a thread, when I never, your honour: I been fitted up!

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6933

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            My thanks, too Nick - I'm sure your labours have not been in vain, as there are probably plenty of comments and suggestions to come on this subject!
                            Can I add my thanks as well? I see that several of my posts have been moved which, given I don’t have particularly strong views on the subject , either shows that I am an opinionated windbag or that others are much cleverer at integrating a dig at the format into their thoughts on the actual selection ....

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                            • Pulcinella
                              Host
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 11062

                              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                              I shall await EA’s imprimatur
                              Looks like you got the nihil obstat then!


                              Thanks from me too.

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                              • antongould
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8833

                                Surely we should have an I Wish Morning Radio 3 Was Like It Used To Be thread ..... that would test Rumpole’s moving skills ....

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