BaL 22.03.14 - Mozart's Coronation Mass

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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #46
    By the way, please note that the 2014 'First Choice' re-issue of the Pinnock is not only appears to be available for less than the previous issue, it also offers "exclusive" access to a recording of Symphony 25, presumably an mp3 download.

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    • aeolium
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      • Nov 2010
      • 3992

      #47
      I thought JS coped well with the discussion format, though it isn't as good as the straight "report" format - why don't they ever disagree about anything?! I was glad to hear the Colin Davis version which for some reason I had not heard before. I still think the ASMF version, of which a brief extract was heard early on, is a very good one but the Pinnock sounded impressive as did the Nethsinga one with the boys' choir. A shame that Kubelik's BRSO recording did not get a mention AFAIR, especially as there were extracts from two Karajan recordings.

      [I would have liked to have heard JS give us his real uncensored thoughts about recordings as mentioned in his note jottings - who was that shrieking soprano?]

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      • gurnemanz
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7405

        #48
        A trivial point but slight anomaly maybe: he said was he was listening "blind" (laudable approach) to CDs, yet the selections - and one winner - included download only versions.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20572

          #49
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Oxygen for Alpie, please - he's been in the refined Alpine heights too long (well, Mr Maaaaaaazel's "priviledged" tempi can have that effect) and he's off about his favoured imaginary "establishment" again.
          Now there's an argument relying on desperate measures, seeking the most extreme example available - like Bernstein's Enigma Variations.

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          • slarty

            #50
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Now there's an argument relying on desperate measures, seeking the most extreme example available - like Bernstein's Enigma Variations.
            Bravo Alpie, I'm with you all the way on this, BTW did you hear this morning the excerpt from Harding's Alpensinfonie on CD review - a live recording coming in at 51 minutes and
            the reviewer thought it a little fast! Sorry - OT!

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #51
              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
              A trivial point but slight anomaly maybe: he said was he was listening "blind" (laudable approach) to CDs, yet the selections - and one winner - included download only versions.
              Well the claim that the Davis is only available as a download was just plain wrong. The Philips Duo album which includes it is easily available, and cheaply, even if only "new" as an import.

              [I see the bottom price for "new" via the amazon.co.uk marketplace has just gone up a bit. Still good though.]
              Last edited by Bryn; 22-03-14, 11:22. Reason: Update

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              • aeolium
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3992

                #52
                In which case perhaps the result should have been a tie between Davis and Pinnock, as it was only CD availability which decided it in favour of Pinnock.

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                • Flosshilde
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #53
                  As is so often the case with titles the name 'Coronation' was only applied after Mozart's death; I liked the suggestion that it could have been called the 'Job application' Mass as M wrote it to apply for a post; the suggestion that he was a bit put out because it had to be short suggests another title - the 'Petulant Mass'

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20572

                    #54
                    Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                    In which case perhaps the result should have been a tie between Davis and Pinnock, as it was only CD availability which decided it in favour of Pinnock.
                    Yeah, but Colin Davis ain't HIPP.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Yeah, but Colin Davis ain't HIPP.
                      Really? Again it appears that you were not listening. Modern instruments, certainly, but one of the main points in his favour was his HIPP interpretation of Mozart's tempo characterisations.

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                      • amateur51

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Really? Again it appears that you were not listening. Modern instruments, certainly, but one of the main points in his favour was his HIPP interpretation of Mozart's tempo characterisations.
                        I hope Sir Colin was listening and felt Summerly's approval

                        Time & again Pinnock's recordings do well on BAL - why not Sir Trevor by this?

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                        • Flosshilde
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          #57
                          Perhaps Brenda isn't HIPP?

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                          • MickyD
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4811

                            #58
                            She's more likely to be up for an artificial HIP, I think.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11751

                              #59
                              What happened to the Hogwood?

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #60
                                I rather liked the Colin Davis(as he was then), the only disadvantaged is it's only available on download
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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