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  • Flosshilde
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
    That seems a shame; is the ground level shop empty?
    No, it's a remainder bookshop. I assume that Gramex originally moved into the ground floor? I was told that the basement was £500 (a month?) cheaper, & that not putting the CDs into any order saved employing staff to do so; it sounds as if money is tight. I think there's slightly less space than in the old shop, & of course not having a window display won't attract people in. & I would have tought that not having things in any order would depress sales - you'd need several hours to sift through hundreds of CDs in the hope of finding the one you're looking for, or even anything you might be interested in, & I wouldn't have thought many people have that sort of time, especially in Waterloo.

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    • visualnickmos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3609

      It does sound as if things are on the decline for Gramex. Very unfortunate. I was in GB in early March and went to the new shop - I noticed that most of the CDs wer on the tables, whereas before, there was some but not as much as in the old place, alphabetical shelving as well. I liked that format; one could browse 'a la carte' or simply scrabble around for a 'gem' but the whole shop wasn't somehow the same as before, and during the hour and a half I was there (I had time on my hands) only 2 or 3 other customers showed up. I remember the 90s when it would be a real hive of activity whenever I popped in. I wonder if this an extended result of internet shopping further undermining retail outlets.....? Pity - I do enjoy a good old rummage from time to time. I did have a nice chat with Roger, the owner. I think when he eventually stops project-Gramex, the shop will be gone for good. Such a shame really.....

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      • Cockney Sparrow
        Full Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 2280

        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        I would have thought that not having things in any order would depress sales - you'd need several hours to sift through hundreds of CDs in the hope of finding the one you're looking for, or even anything you might be interested in,
        I visited - once. In the upstairs. A good half of the stock on the tables. We could be met half way, couldn't we - on shelves, opera, orchestral, instrumental, vocal, historic, etc. The entire time I was there, the owner held court in his armchair, when he could have been shelving - even in such a rudimentary order. I did find things worth buying, but not enough - I haven't been back. And it seems that there aren't enough people who find this concept of "serving" paying customers is satisfactory. On top of the expense of time, I don't live in London - so every day (or half day in the case of Gramex) also has a financial cost before I do anything, I'm not just browsing in a country bookshop (such places do still exist, here and there...).

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        • ChrisBennell
          Full Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 171

          A friend of mine visited last week, and was also surprised to find Gramex in the basement. Roger was having a nap when he arrived, but was his usual self. He had 2 helpers sorting through a pile of newly arrived stock. My friend thought the stock selection was at least as big as ever, and possibly more so. I'll pay a visit when I can next get up there, in July. Though I don't expect Roger to do too much leaping up the stairs for tea and buns on the house, any more!

          In the meantime, I acquired the John Eliot Gardiner St. Matthew Passion (1989) in Oxfam, Woodley, today for £3.99 - couldn't resist at that price! Seems in good nick too!

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12229

            I was in Gramex a month ago and Roger let me make up my own price for my purchases - he never even checked. I did a quick bit of mental arithmetic and said £45 but he let me have them for £38 without looking.

            Yes, he's in the basement but the stock is staggering. I spent about three hours in there and only saw a portion of it. The constant bending was beginning to do my back in!
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              As well as Gramex I visited Roger Moore in Gt Marlborough St. I would think that their 2nd hand stock compares with Gramex in size, & is properly organised. What's more, at the moment all 2nd hand stock is reduced by 50%.

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12229

                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                As well as Gramex I visited [Harold] Moore in Gt Marlborough St. I would think that their 2nd hand stock compares with Gramex in size, & is properly organised. What's more, at the moment all 2nd hand stock is reduced by 50%.
                Foyles also have a second hand section and while it's nowhere near as extensive as Gramex or Moores does yield the occasional gem. A visit to London has me flitting between the three.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7638

                  Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                  As well as Gramex I visited Roger Moore in Gt Marlborough St. I would think that their 2nd hand stock compares with Gramex in size, & is properly organised. What's more, at the moment all 2nd hand stock is reduced by 50%.


                  I loved Moores when I was there 3 years ago. I just hope that these shops buck all curent trends and continue to survive.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26514

                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    I visited Roger Moore in Gt Marlborough St.


                    I think you mean Harold Moores.



                    Sir Roger lives in Crans-Montana, I believe

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22110

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                      I think you mean Harold Moores.



                      Sir Roger lives in Crans-Montana, I believe

                      Was there a Templar records chain some years ago?

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26514

                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        Was there a Templar records chain some years ago?
                        Oh very good!
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Flosshilde
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                          I think you mean Harold Moores.
                          Indeed I do

                          If I was going to get the wrong Moore, Gerald would have been more appropriate.

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                          • MickyD
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4744

                            Amazing bargain on Amazon Italy - all 60 CDs of the Harnoncourt/Leonhardt Complete Cantatas for just 112 euros.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                              Amazing bargain on Amazon Italy - all 60 CDs of the Harnoncourt/Leonhardt Complete Cantatas for just 112 euros.

                              http://www.amazon.it/Bach-Complete-C...ch+harnoncourt
                              Not so sure that's such a bargain. After all this includes those 60 CDs, and all the rest of the complete works, and only costs an extra €30.49.

                              [Ah. It's not what the listing claims is to be. It's the USB stick of mp3s, not the 153 CDs. See the customer reviews]
                              Last edited by Bryn; 27-05-15, 21:48.

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                              • gurnemanz
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7379

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Not so sure that's such a bargain. After all this includes those 60 CDs, and all the rest of the complete works, and only costs an extra €30.49.

                                [Ah. It's not what the listing claims is to be. It's the USB stick of mp3s, not the 153 CDs. See the customer reviews]
                                I have that stick (copied to laptop). It is not arranged as CDs but consists of 1045 individual folders, one for each work, some of which contain only one file. Still well worth getting.

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