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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18025

    Amazon have the Decca Analogue Years at a lower price now - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...2SP490RPBX8GK3 - around £55.

    There are also several other box sets, such as the original Decca Sound set, which is now cheaper than when I bought it.

    The Oiseau Lyre box seems slightly cheaper than a month back, too - http://www.amazon.co.uk/LOiseau-Baro...ds=Oiseau+Lyre - this is the one I tried to obtain from am.it, but the order seemed to be cancelled by the supplier without a very clear reason.

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    • hafod
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 740

      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
      Amazon have the Decca Analogue Years at a lower price now - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...2SP490RPBX8GK3 - around £55.

      There are also several other box sets, such as the original Decca Sound set, which is now cheaper than when I bought it.

      The Oiseau Lyre box seems slightly cheaper than a month back, too - http://www.amazon.co.uk/LOiseau-Baro...ds=Oiseau+Lyre - this is the one I tried to obtain from am.it, but the order seemed to be cancelled by the supplier without a very clear reason.
      See, for example, here..........http://bons-plans-classique.blogspot.fr/

      ......and a few more below. [I have offered links only where I have not purchased the item from Amazon as I understand that to do otherwise can compromise one's account - for example, show up one's wish lists and other material.]

      1. Mahler: Complete Symphonies 1-10 & Songs, Rattle (EMI/Warner) 14cd £14.86


      2. R. Strauss: The Great Operas by Richard Strauss (EMI/Warner), 22 cd £27.05


      3. The Anniversary Edition by Alfred Cortot EMI/Warner 40 cd £31.43


      4. Chopin Complete Edition: DG 17 cd £23.02


      5. Messiaen Complete Edition: DG 32 cd £44.89


      6. Haydn: Complete String Quartets: Aeolian Quartet 22 cd £23.75


      7. Verdi: The Great Operas: EMI/Warner: 33 cd £23.53 [ASIN: B00A4AI17A]

      8. Klaus Tennstedt: The Great EMI Recordings: 14 cd £17.55 [ASIN: B004OUFSOA]

      9. Leopold Stokowski - The Columbia Stereo Recordings 10 cd £9.65 [B0083D9MXM]

      10. Celibidache Edition - Sacred Music & Opera: 11 cd £15.81 [ASIN: B005HYNCSG]

      11. Celibidache Edition - French & Russian Music: 11 cd £16.03 [ASIN: B005HYNCTA]

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      • otterhouse
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 21

        Bought this LP for one euro, and it's amazing. Telemann almost in the same league as Bach...

        Started these two blogs about classical music: http://classicalspotify.blogspot.nl (to sort out the mess Spotify usually is :-) and http://classical-lp.blog...


        Rolf, Nehterlands

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        • Dave2002
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 18025

          Originally posted by hafod View Post
          [I have offered links only where I have not purchased the item from Amazon as I understand that to do otherwise can compromise one's account - for example, show up one's wish lists and other material.]
          Is that still the case? On one occasion years ago I was contacted by a very helpful board member who pointed out that the amazon link I posted disclosed my identity. After that I took extra steps to try to avoid that happening, and in recent years I haven't noticed a significant problem, but maybe there is still an issue. At least we can now deduce from your posting which of the box sets listed you have in your collection!
          Last edited by Dave2002; 28-01-15, 17:22.

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          • hafod
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 740

            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            Is that still the case? On one occasion years ago I was contacted by a very helpful board member who pointed out that the amazon link I posted disclosed my identity. After that I took extra steps to try to avoid that happening, and in recent years I haven't noticed a significant problem, but maybe there is still an issue. At least we can now deduce from your posting which of the box sets listed you have in your collection!
            Not quite - only the ones I bought from AmazonUK

            Since posting that list I have been told authoritatively that if one shortens the URL by cutting it off immediately after the ASIN, then it cannot be traced back to you.

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            • visualnickmos
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              Originally posted by hafod View Post
              Not quite - only the ones I bought from AmazonUK

              Since posting that list I have been told authoritatively that if one shortens the URL by cutting it off immediately after the ASIN, then it cannot be traced back to you.
              But surely, if you quote the link from Amazon while you are NOT logged on to the site, it cannot be traced?????

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                When I click on Amazon links such as those given by hafod in 5192 (for which, many thanks as always ) it always takes me to the items in my own account. How could I trace hafod's account from the link? (This is purely a rhetorical/hypothetical question - what I'm really concerned about is how anyone else can access my account through any link to a product I might give in a post. As a cyber-paranoid who has given many such links, I shall now lose sleep! )
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18025

                  Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                  But surely, if you quote the link from Amazon while you are NOT logged on to the site, it cannot be traced?????
                  You have to make sure the browser and cookies don't tell Amazon who you are. If you get truly paranoid use a different machine, perhaps even on a different IP number, and don't ever log in on that one. One can become completely paranoid - perhaps a modicum of tolerance for the technology stuff is appropriate. Otherwise don't use it - ever!

                  Back to the first point, I heard a talk once - perhaps by someone from Google. Seems you don't really need to login - but it's polite of "them" to make you think you have to. Quite a few sites can tell with reasonable certainty who you are from a whole bunch of things - the machine you are using, the IP address, cookies etc., etc. You'd go mad if you spent a lot of time worrying about that.

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                  • visualnickmos
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3610

                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    You have to make sure the browser and cookies don't tell Amazon who you are. If you get truly paranoid use a different machine, perhaps even on a different IP number, and don't ever log in on that one. One can become completely paranoid - perhaps a modicum of tolerance for the technology stuff is appropriate. Otherwise don't use it - ever!

                    Back to the first point, I heard a talk once - perhaps by someone from Google. Seems you don't really need to login - but it's polite of "them" to make you think you have to. Quite a few sites can tell with reasonable certainty who you are from a whole bunch of things - the machine you are using, the IP address, cookies etc., etc. You'd go mad if you spent a lot of time worrying about that.
                    I myself, am not bothered or worried about this. I was merely wondering.....

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                    • hafod
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 740

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      When I click on Amazon links such as those given by hafod in 5192 (for which, many thanks as always ) it always takes me to the items in my own account. How could I trace hafod's account from the link? (This is purely a rhetorical/hypothetical question - what I'm really concerned about is how anyone else can access my account through any link to a product I might give in a post. As a cyber-paranoid who has given many such links, I shall now lose sleep! )
                      Shortly after I joined these boards, some kind soul noted that an unknown wish list appeared when s/he clicked on an Amazon link I had provided. There have been at least two other examples since (not affecting me) where this has been reported on these boards. In my case I had already purchased the item to which the link referred before creating that link, and I gained the impression that this is what had happened in the other cases. Given that one's card details are also stored on Amazon, there remains a possibility that there is a vulnerability here. Whatever the assurances one is given there have been too many IT security breaches generally to take unnecessary risks.

                      I am not risk averse having worked in an environment where the identification and management of risk was an everyday activity, but we learned that where IT was concerned always remove any risk wherever possible rather than manage it. IT is fertile ground for the law of unintended consequences and the amount of IT-related fraud exploiting unintended (and sometimes intended ) vulnerabilities is legion. Cutting the URL right after the ASIN number is a simple and effective measure to remove any potential vulnerability because it requires just the ASIN to locate the item on the Amazon site - the rest contains pointers relating to one's use of that site and common sense says do not supply unnecessary information.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12846

                        Originally posted by hafod View Post
                        Cutting the URL right after the ASIN number is a simple and effective measure to remove any potential vulnerability because it requires just the ASIN to locate the item on the Amazon site - the rest contains pointers relating to one's use of that site and common sense says do not supply unnecessary information.
                        ... but when I look at a CD on the amazon site - if I go to the envelope icon where it says "share", copy and paste the h t t p : / / w w w . amazon.co.uk reference - what I get is precisely the ASIN number; I don't see anything I need to cut off. But am I in so doing also revealing more than I intend?

                        As, fr'instance -

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                        • hafod
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 740

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... but when I look at a CD on the amazon site - if I go to the envelope icon where it says "share", copy and paste the h t t p : / / w w w . amazon.co.uk reference - what I get is precisely the ASIN number; I don't see anything I need to cut off. But am I in so doing also revealing more than I intend?

                          As, fr'instance -

                          http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000004CYT
                          The links in my #5192 have characters after the ASIN - it is these that I now cut off. Sometimes the link comes up with these extra characters and sometimes it doesn't. To identify the item all that is needed is up to and including the ASIN. Anything else is superfluous and, it would seem, may relate in some way to a logged in Amazon web page - probably one's own. I am not a pointy head and have no knowledge of how these things actually work. Everything may be OK but anecdotal evidence suggests perhaps not. In all things IT I prefer to err on the side of caution as IT 'experts' have sometimes missed vulnerabilities - potential or otherwise.

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                          • MrBear
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 44

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... but when I look at a CD on the amazon site - if I go to the envelope icon where it says "share", copy and paste the h t t p : / / w w w . amazon.co.uk reference - what I get is precisely the ASIN number; I don't see anything I need to cut off. But am I in so doing also revealing more than I intend?

                            As, fr'instance -

                            http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000004CYT

                            Thats good that just links to the product with ASIN B000004CYT
                            if change the ASIN to B002V9P8YQ

                            eg http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002V9P8YQ
                            you get something that appears to be avliable for a lot cheaper that it actually is Grrrrrrrrrrr!

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                            • ChrisBennell
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 171

                              Made one of my periodic visits to Gramex today in Lower Marsh Waterloo.



                              Roger (proprietor) is very well stocked at the moment - so it was very difficult to choose what to have. After about an hour of browsing finally selected:

                              Janacek Cunning Little Vixen - Mackerras and VPO at £11

                              Bach Cantatas 117, 11, 82 - Bach Kollegium Stuttgart at £4

                              All prices before the discount!!

                              Anyone who doesn't know this shop should pay it a visit - thoroughly recommended, but allow plenty of time for browsing - and a coffee and bun with Roger!

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                              • visualnickmos
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3610

                                Originally posted by ChrisBennell View Post
                                Made one of my periodic visits to Gramex today in Lower Marsh Waterloo.



                                Roger (proprietor) is very well stocked at the moment - so it was very difficult to choose what to have. After about an hour of browsing finally selected:

                                Janacek Cunning Little Vixen - Mackerras and VPO at £11

                                Bach Cantatas 117, 11, 82 - Bach Kollegium Stuttgart at £4

                                All prices before the discount!!

                                Anyone who doesn't know this shop should pay it a visit - thoroughly recommended, but allow plenty of time for browsing - and a coffee and bun with Roger!
                                I love this shop! I'm coming to UK/London in a few weeks time and I'll be paying a few visits as usual. Last time, I was talking to Roger about a CD that I was hesitating over, and he said "Take it home and listen to, and if you don't want it, bring it back next time, or if you keep it you can pay next time you come in" I said, but you know I live in France, and only pop in every 8 or 9 months, or so. He said "That's OK - there's no hurry!"
                                What fantastic customer service is that. Where else in the world would you find such an excellent attitude? As it turned out, I did buy the CD in question, but still had Roger's assurance that I could exchange it or get my money back if I changed my mind, even if it may be a year down the line! He really is a wonderful chap. I had a nice cup of tea as well!

                                Best music shop in the world, surely.

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