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  • hafod
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 740

    Originally posted by hafod View Post
    Beethoven: Complete Quartets. Tokyo Quartet - sacd harmonia mundi. Just reduced on Amuk to £15.12. The ASIN is B00L5J4PYC
    There is another Beethoven Quartet cycle - the early '70s Quatuor Vegh - also under £16 at AmUk. The ASIN is B0000DET84.
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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by hafod View Post
      There is another Beethoven Quartet cycle - the early '70s Quatuor Vegh - also under £16 at AmUk. The ASIN is B0000DET84.
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      That's the one which, if ripping for a portable device, hard disc, etc. you need to resolve the pre-emphasis.

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      • mathias broucek
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1303

        Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post
        Karajan Symphony Edition for £27.60 at Amazon
        Good man! Done!

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        • Rolmill
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 634

          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          That's the one which, if ripping for a portable device, hard disc, etc. you need to resolve the pre-emphasis.
          Bryn,

          I have just ordered this (thanks once again Hafod!) and will eventually put it onto my hard disk. I'm not sure what you mean by "resolve the pre-emphasis", though - could you elaborate, presuming (correctly) that I am completely clueless about such matters?

          Thanks!

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18021

            Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
            Bryn,

            I have just ordered this (thanks once again Hafod!) and will eventually put it onto my hard disk. I'm not sure what you mean by "resolve the pre-emphasis", though - could you elaborate, presuming (correctly) that I am completely clueless about such matters?

            Thanks!
            Some CDs have analogue pre-emphasis (mostly Japanese ones) which a good CD player will notice and correct on playback. Not all ripping software does this, so Bryn is suggesting that special measures may be needed.

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            • Rolmill
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 634

              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              Some CDs have analogue pre-emphasis (mostly Japanese ones) which a good CD player will notice and correct on playback. Not all ripping software does this, so Bryn is suggesting that special measures may be needed.
              Thanks Dave - I use EAC, but don't recall seeing any option for this type of correction, how do I go about correcting for this (I don't even know what pre-emphasis is...)?

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              • PJPJ
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1461

                Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
                Thanks Dave - I use EAC, but don't recall seeing any option for this type of correction, how do I go about correcting for this (I don't even know what pre-emphasis is...)?
                The immensely useful foobar may be of use to you:

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18021

                  Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
                  Thanks Dave - I use EAC, but don't recall seeing any option for this type of correction, how do I go about correcting for this (I don't even know what pre-emphasis is...)?
                  Pre-emphasis will make the music sound funny if not corrected. IIRC it will make the treble and higher notes sound tinny. The point of it is that it reduces background noise if the correct de-emphasis is applied.

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                  • johnb
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2903

                    Rolmil,

                    The Vegh Beethoven String Quartets certainly used to you pre-emphasis but it is always possible that the current release might have been remastered to remove it.

                    I used SOX to remove the pre-emphasis when I ripped the discs, though that meant the process was more complicated that normal: rip to wave -> use SOX to remove pre-emphasis -> convert to FLAC -> tag with mp3tag. There are probably easier ways of doing it!

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      Maybe this post will help - http://www.head-fi.org/t/423506/ripp...e-pre-emphasis

                      It is claimed in that posting that iTunes does the correct de-emphasis. I don't know if fhis is true. There were a few versions of iTunes which made a complete mess of CDs with pre-emphasis years ago, though it's been OK for some while now.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22127

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        Any wise thoughts where else to go for Ireland Piano music, PJ?

                        The Parkin set also available at around £12.
                        ts, two volumes by Lenehan on Naxos are excellent value.

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                        • PJPJ
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1461

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          Any wise thoughts where else to go for Ireland Piano music, PJ?

                          The Parkin set also available at around £12.
                          Sorry, I missed your post!

                          You've found the Parkin on Lyrita, which is excellent and sounds fine, too. I have this set as well as the Rowlands and recommend it. The little I've heard of Lenehan and Bebbington suggest they're equally recommendable.

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                          • Rolmill
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 634

                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            Maybe this post will help - http://www.head-fi.org/t/423506/ripp...e-pre-emphasis

                            It is claimed in that posting that iTunes does the correct de-emphasis. I don't know if fhis is true. There were a few versions of iTunes which made a complete mess of CDs with pre-emphasis years ago, though it's been OK for some while now.
                            Thanks for the help Dave (and also to Johnb and PJPJ), when the set arrives I'll see if EAC says they have pre-emphasis and then try to follow Johnb's process (which looks very like the workflow described in the posting you linked above.

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                            • Dave2002
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 18021

                              Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
                              Thanks for the help Dave (and also to Johnb and PJPJ), when the set arrives I'll see if EAC says they have pre-emphasis and then try to follow Johnb's process (which looks very like the workflow described in the posting you linked above.
                              Some CD players have a light or indicator for CDs with pre-emphasis.

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                              • Rolmill
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 634

                                Apologies for the diversion above (but thanks to Dave2002 and others for enlightenment).

                                Back OT, not as spectacular in the bargain stakes as many recent suggestions, but still worth investigating: Europadisc have 30% off the whole Hyperion list until next Thursday. This includes very recent releases (I picked up Hamelin's Janacek/Schumann coupling).

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