Bargains

[Beef Oven!]

Beefy - good to see you've switched back your avatar from Lionheart to Beefheart!

HeHe, we do like our seasonal/topical avatars!

It got lots of 'likes' via PMs, but I promised not to name, names

[LeMartinPecheur]

Zoverstocks are very good - the odd non-arrival or faulty disc have been quickly reimbursed or replaced if they have another in stock. Just go back to your order and use the contact seller option.

This is really for Dave 2002 and his original Q primarily...

English law generally assumes that time of delivery is NOT 'of the essence of the contract', and estimates of delivery time are just that, estimates. If you buy from a shop you can MAKE time of the essence, eg if before you buy you say, "I must have my X by such a date". If the shop say "Yes, we can do that" it is a term of the contract and breach (late delivery) entitles you to revoke the contract and get your money back. But internet ordering doesn't normally allow you to insert such a term...

Where does this leave you? Contract law in general expects delivery to be in a 'reasonable' time, and the rules of distance selling require delivery inside 30 days from date of contract. Also, bear in mind that distance contracts give you a right to cancel for 7 days, soon (from 13 June) to increase to 14 days, after delivery.

Once you've placed your order you are generally entitled to revoke your offer to purchase until your goods are despatched (because internet sellers generally say there is no binding contract till goods are despatched), and then from delivery you have the above cancellation rights.

But NB for CDs, DVDs and software, breaking of any seal on the goods (the transparent wrapping usually) ends your cancellation rights. This is because of the problem of copying digital products - a tad unfair if you can copy them, then send them back a refund!

BUT NB this only applies on products that are sealed. S/h sellers from Marketplace don't seem to bother to reseal products in order to protect themselves, so in those cases they have no comeback if you try the disc, decide you don't like it and send it back.

Here endeth the lesson...

[Pianorak]

I have been a satisfied zoverstocks customer for years - no complaints. Just saying.

[Petrushka]

S/h sellers from Marketplace don't seem to bother to reseal products in order to protect themselves, so in those cases they have no comeback if you try the disc, decide you don't like it and send it back.

This seems reasonable to me. The consumer would expect a sealed product to be new; the fact that it isn't sealed tells you it's second-hand. If the consumer does what you suggest then the status of the product is still second-hand when it's returned and presumably sold on. Sellers won't be too bothered about this and, as long as goods are as described, neither will the buyer.

I've had no problem with Zoverstocks either.

[LeMartinPecheur]

This seems reasonable to me. The consumer would expect a sealed product to be new; the fact that it isn't sealed tells you it's second-hand. If the consumer does what you suggest then the status of the product is still second-hand when it's returned and presumably sold on. Sellers won't be too bothered about this and, as long as goods are as described, neither will the buyer.

Um, if the consumer has seen the item listed as s/h, they shouldn't be misled if it has been resealed surely? And there's nothing to stop the manner of resealing being different from the genuine new, like a more loose-fitting bag.

I thought these issues were reasonably clear-cut till someone hereabouts suggested you can order a s/h item off Marketplace and get something clearly new, with labels identifying a shop that's somehow 'recycled' it.

[teamsaint]

Just discovered that one of my favourite Satie CDs is up for grabs at 1p from Zoverstocks. Just search amazon.co.uk's music section for "satie piano works john white" (without the quotes) and then opt for "CD Format". The disc got at least one pretty negative review around the time of its release. That can only have been written by someone with little empathy for Satie's muse.

It arrived.
Utterly captivating from the first note.
I actually don't know Satie's music much, but this feels very special at this stage.
THanks Bryn.

[Dave2002]

This Vivarte 60 CD box set seems cheaper now - under £41 today - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vivarte-Coll...F3FT5DRGVJVH54

Good news - my set has been dispatched.

Bad news (see the reviews) - delivery by Yodel! Fingers crossed!

[Beef Oven!]

It arrived.
Utterly captivating from the first note.
I actually don't know Satie's music much, but this feels very special at this stage.
THanks Bryn.

[teamsaint]

Is that your own copy, Mr Oven, or did you have to borrow it?

You can have a lend of my blue vinyl "revolt into style"' if you want that as well!!

[Beef Oven!]

Is that your own copy, Mr Oven, or did you have to borrow it?

You can have a lend of my blue vinyl "revolt into style"' if you want that as well!!

Ok, I'll swap you for my yellow vinyl 12'' Boney M 'Hooray, Hooray, It's A Holi-Holiday' (I honestly bought that in '78!!). God knows what I was thinking!

[teamsaint]

And your point was?...........

[Beef Oven!]

And your point was?...........

Point about what?

[Madame Suggia]

Could we keep this thread for bargains please? Thanks!

Quartetto Italiano complete Beethoven String Quartets £18.22 on amazon.

[Beef Oven!]

Could we keep this thread for bargains please? Thanks!

[amateur51]

Could we keep this thread for bargains please? Thanks!

Quartetto Italiano complete Beethoven String Quartets £18.22 on amazon.

Well said, Madame Suggia - that's a great bargain!