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  • AmpH
    Guest
    • Feb 2012
    • 1318

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Dave- I am pretty sure someone has given these transfers the big thumbs down somewhere on this board possibly in the Alfredo Campoli thread .
    Yes, I think it was Makropulos on the ' Elgar Violin Concerto - which Boult version ' thread about 6 months ago, who commented that some of the transfers were poor. At the time, I was looking to purchase the Campoli / Boult recording which is included in this set, but decided to get it on the Beulah disc c/w an equally good Mendelssohn VC.

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    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18014

      Originally posted by AmpH View Post
      Yes, I think it was Makropulos on the ' Elgar Violin Concerto - which Boult version ' thread about 6 months ago, who commented that some of the transfers were poor. At the time, I was looking to purchase the Campoli / Boult recording which is included in this set, but decided to get it on the Beulah disc c/w an equally good Mendelssohn VC.
      That's possibly useful to know. I'm not quite sure how even moderately reasonable companies manage to screw up making transfers these days, but it seems it is still possible.

      Performances by Campoli are generally well worth hearing, and I believe I have one of his Mendelssohn recordings. It's one of the best ever recorded performances. The Boult/Campoli combination would have been my main reason for trying that set, so now I'll think again, and maybe try that Beulah recording.

      The reviewer here doesn't seem to think that the Regis box is all bad - http://www.musicweb-international.co...lt_RRC5010.htm but does comment on the sound of the Elgar violin concerto - and remark that the Beulah recording is better.

      The Beulah recording with the Elgar concerto seems relatively highly priced, but at least it's still just about available - http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Art-Camp...2529313&sr=8-2

      There is also a Decca incarnation on Eloquence - but that costs more - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgar-Violin...529665&sr=1-10 I wonder if it could ever turn up on the Australian label.

      It could still be worth buying the Regis set if the price is low enough, which it probably still is, at £7.99 currently - http://www.selections.com/elgar-sir-...ucts-5cds.html despite the reservations, and getting the Beulah or Decca versions of Elgar's violin concerto as an extra.

      There is another Boult/Campoli recording available at Selections - Moeran's violin concerto - http://www.selections.com/moeran-violin-concerto.html for around £6.

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      • PJPJ
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1461

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        The Beulah recording with the Elgar concerto seems relatively highly priced, but at least it's still just about available - http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Art-Camp...2529313&sr=8-2

        There is also a Decca incarnation on Eloquence - but that costs more - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgar-Violin...529665&sr=1-10 I wonder if it could ever turn up on the Australian label.

        It could still be worth buying the Regis set if the price is low enough, which it probably still is, at £7.99 currently - http://www.selections.com/elgar-sir-...ucts-5cds.html despite the reservations, and getting the Beulah or Decca versions of Elgar's violin concerto as an extra.

        There is another Boult/Campoli recording available at Selections - Moeran's violin concerto - http://www.selections.com/moeran-violin-concerto.html for around £6.
        The Moeran is well worth having.

        The Elgar was on Australian Eloquence some while ago now, and was also on Universal's ultra-bargain label:



        and also in a LPO own label box.

        All of these transfers as well as Beulah's are fine. Does Beulah offer a download option as well?

        I also have both Mendelssohn recordings and retain a greater affection for the earlier with Van Beinum which I bought first on Decca Eclipse.

        PS - The LPO's own box

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        • Madame Suggia
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 189

          Looking forward to this ;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sibelius-Sym...=I85HGSZDLTRWG

          I'm new on here, can someone tell me how to start a thread?

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          • Stunsworth
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1553

            Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
            I'm new on here, can someone tell me how to start a thread?
            Click on '+New Thread' at the top left of the page showing all the existing threads.
            Steve

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              If you go to a forum - eg Bargains, or Performance, you'll see a button at the top of the list of threads marked 'Post new thread'. It's in the same place as the 'reply to thread' button at the top of this page.


              & welcome to the Board - I hope you get as much pleasure & knowledge from it as I do.

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18014

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Whilst they would not replace my favourite versions of the works they are good recordings - and well filled discs Schumann 2 c/w Brahms VC, Berlioz Sym Fant and S-S PC2, Tchaik Sym 1 and Prokofiev PC3, Tchaik Manfred and Rach Vocalise, and a Hungarian orchestra at home with Hary Janos and Bartok C for O. If you're ordering other stuff worth trying as makeweights to justify the postage.
                Currently most of those Budapest recordings have gone up to £1.99, though I wouldn't be surprised if they go back down to 99p on occasions.
                Last edited by Dave2002; 13-11-12, 12:04.

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                • soileduk
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 337

                  Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
                  You should enjoy that set. I have the old Disky box of these symphonies.

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                  • Pianorak
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3127

                    Complete Scarlatti Sonatas - Richard Lester - £14.97

                    D Scarlatti - The Complete Sonatas | Richard Lester plays the majority of the sonatas on a copy of a 1785 harpsichord by Joachim José Antunes, with a selec


                    9 CDs in high bite-rate MP3 format. Playable on MP3 compatible disc players

                    MP3 compatible disc players?
                    My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                      Complete Scarlatti Sonatas - Richard Lester - £14.97

                      D Scarlatti - The Complete Sonatas | Richard Lester plays the majority of the sonatas on a copy of a 1785 harpsichord by Joachim José Antunes, with a selec


                      9 CDs in high bite-rate MP3 format. Playable on MP3 compatible disc players

                      MP3 compatible disc players?
                      Most modern DVD decks and fewer CD decks will do the job.

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18014

                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Most modern DVD decks and fewer CD decks will do the job.
                        Anyone have any views on the quality here? Are regular CDs nla, or if they are, are they 3-4 times the price? Admittedly at high bit rates quality might be OK, though I fear that harpsichords might just show up quality issues. Also, some so-called high bit rate encodings sometimes turn out not to be.

                        Would these be copy protected in any way? If not, then I'd probably copy them and play them in my car, which has a CD player which will do mp3s.

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22119

                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          Currently most of those Budapest recordings have gone up to £1.99, thought I wouldn't be surprised if they go back down to 99p on occasions.
                          The asking price on Amazon is interesting however.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            Anyone have any views on the quality here? Are regular CDs nla, or if they are, are they 3-4 times the price? Admittedly at high bit rates quality might be OK, though I fear that harpsichords might just show up quality issues. Also, some so-called high bit rate encodings sometimes turn out not to be.

                            Would these be copy protected in any way? If not, then I'd probably copy them and play them in my car, which has a CD player which will do mp3s.
                            I have their Bowyer Bach Organ works set of 320 kbps mp3s and the sound is pretty good. At the same data rate a harpsichord should not fare too badly. You will fins at least some of the individual CDA volumes from the set further into the listing but they do work out very much more expensive. There is no copy protection on the Bach discs I have, so I doubt very much there will be any on the Scarlatti.

                            [As an afterthought, why not rip a harpsichord recording you know well and make a 320kbps mp3 of it, then decide the extent to which the codec degrades the sound?]

                            [[Please note, the offer ends today. I have just placed an order for NI1719 - D Scarlatti - The Complete Sonatas, NI1732 - Schubert - 11½ Piano Sonatas (Alan Marks) and NI2546 - Scott Joplin - The Complete Rags, Marches & Waltzes (William Albright).]]
                            Last edited by Bryn; 13-11-12, 12:47. Reason: Update.

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                            • Pianorak
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3127

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Most modern DVD decks and fewer CD decks will do the job.
                              Thanks, Bryn. I had hoped someone would enlighten me.
                              My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12815

                                Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                                Complete Scarlatti Sonatas - Richard Lester - ?
                                ... sadly I couldn't recommend this set - even if it were given away free.

                                Scarlatti is for me one of the most engaging and thrilling composers. There are many marvellous recordings - Scott Ross, Belder, Staier, Koopman, Hantai, Rousset, Pinnock, Zacharias, Horowitz, Mayako Sone, Linda Nicholson, Tharaud, Pletnev, Pogorelich, Tipo, Queffelec...

                                I acquired the Lester because I'm a sad obsessive completist when it comes to Scarlatti.

                                The Lester recordings are the only recordings of Scarlatti (harpsichord, fortepiano, piano, organ, guitar, accordion.... ) that have given me no joy at all. Or worse - because I expect joy from Scarlatti, listening to the Lester has proved to be a dispiriting experience. They are the only CDs I have ever thought of throwing away (but because I'm a sad obsessive completist when it comes to Scarlatti I of course still have them on the shelves. )

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