Bargains

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • PJPJ
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1461

    That would be nearly impossible! I wish I could find the photograph of the earliest machines, effectively double mono - I see I was more than ambiguous.

    Only since computers have been used has it been feasible to line up two independent sources - Elgar conducts Elgar in accidental stereo:

    Comment

    • Dave2002
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 18045

      PJPJ

      Now I'm trying to figure out what it was you meant to say " the very earliest from late 1953 and early 1954 used a pair of single-track recorders".

      Some of the early Mercury releases were mono only, though for a series called Living Stereo I don't think mono would cut it.

      Comment

      • PJPJ
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1461

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        PJPJ

        Now I'm trying to figure out what it was you meant to say " the very earliest from late 1953 and early 1954 used a pair of single-track recorders".

        Some of the early Mercury releases were mono only, though for a series called Living Stereo I don't think mono would cut it.
        One machine, two separate heads, two sets of electrics. The picture I remember seeing (or imagining?) was of machine which looked superficially less advanced than the pre-War Magnetophon.

        All that aside, the three track Living Stereos date from 1957 and later, though there may be some from 1956 (I don't have my lists to hand) - reviews will make it plain which are which.

        And all that aside, too, the Boult EMI box turned up this morning from S'bury's - the Bach is sprightlier than expected!

        Comment

        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
          And all that aside, too, the Boult EMI box turned up this morning from S'bury's - the Bach is sprightlier than expected!
          Told you so!
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

          Comment

          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18045

            Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
            One machine, two separate heads, two sets of electrics. The picture I remember seeing (or imagining?) was of machine which looked superficially less advanced than the pre-War Magnetophon.

            All that aside, the three track Living Stereos date from 1957 and later, though there may be some from 1956 (I don't have my lists to hand) - reviews will make it plain which are which.

            And all that aside, too, the Boult EMI box turned up this morning from S'bury's - the Bach is sprightlier than expected!
            Interesting!

            I think Mercury and perhaps Everest also recorded on 35 mm film - were they also 3 channel recordings? Maybe RCA only used tape - I thought they might have also tried the film track method, though they were also following a 3 channel approach. At first I think the 3 channel recordings were intended to be replayed on 3 channel equipment - though perhaps only a few could afford the kit. Later I think the 3 channel recording was continued for a while simply as a recording technique, but with the intention of mixing down to 2 channels. That's the impression I got from reading the booklet that came with the Mercury set. Where 3 channels were recorded there may be the possibility of obtaining a better spatial effect and better ambience.

            I had several boxes in the post - including also the Walton set as well as the Boult set, and the Everests arrived from Selections too.

            Comment

            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22205

              Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
              And all that aside, too, the Boult EMI box turned up this morning from S'bury's - the Bach is sprightlier than expected!
              Received mine too! Surely you@d expect sprightly performances from Bo(u)lt. His Brahms doesn't hang about,particularly Serenade 1. Some versions are hard pressed to get 1&2 on on CD - He adds the Alto Rhapsody. His Wagner chunks are interesting - Tristan Preludes 1 & 3 but no Libestod.

              Comment

              • PJPJ
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1461

                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                Interesting!

                At first I think the 3 channel recordings were intended to be replayed on 3 channel equipment - though perhaps only a few could afford the kit.
                Like this listener?



                Yes, it's Frank Sinatra.

                Comment

                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22205

                  Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                  Like this listener?



                  Yes, it's Frank Sinatra.
                  Looks like a sub-woofer - the speaker not the thing eating his hand!

                  Comment

                  • PJPJ
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1461

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Received mine too! Surely you@d expect sprightly performances from Bo(u)lt. His Brahms doesn't hang about,particularly Serenade 1. Some versions are hard pressed to get 1&2 on on CD - He adds the Alto Rhapsody. His Wagner chunks are interesting - Tristan Preludes 1 & 3 but no Libestod.
                    Indeed! Just not quite so light-on-the-feet. I note from the booklet that the Wagner items are not quite all he recorded.

                    Comment

                    • PJPJ
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1461

                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      Looks like a sub-woofer - the speaker not the thing eating his hand!
                      No, they're three Klipsch...you can just make out the outline of the units in the centre and right speakers.

                      A while back I read a post discussing sound stage and various ways to achieve the 'best' sound stage. Somebody posted that a '3 channel' stereo set up was the best, especially in long narrow spaces when you have to work along the 'long' wall. The problem was that not many amps provided 3...


                      These Klipsch tapes (cheaply available as downloads) pre-date three channel - the pdf notes can be downloaded from the site:

                      High Resolution Downloads, Classical Music, Jazz Music, Rare Audiophile, DSD Downloads

                      Comment

                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22205

                        Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                        Indeed! Just not quite so light-on-the-feet. I note from the booklet that the Wagner items are not quite all he recorded.
                        Which seems a strange thing to do for an otherwise comprehensive set of his EMI Germanic recordings, given that two of the Wagner containing discs have spare capacity. I think the full content of the 4 original Wagner Orchestral music is there and the only thing missing from his Wagner output is Wesendonk Lieder with Janet Baker.

                        Comment

                        • gurnemanz
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7414

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Which seems a strange thing to do for an otherwise comprehensive set of his EMI Germanic recordings, given that two of the Wagner containing discs have spare capacity. I think the full content of the 4 original Wagner Orchestral music is there and the only thing missing from his Wagner output is Wesendonk Lieder with Janet Baker.
                          Looking forward to working through the Sainsbury's Boult set (Thanks again to whoever pointed it out). I might start with Schubert's Ninth which I had on LP decades ago and somehow lost along the way. (Wesendonck are on the Janet Baker Icon set).

                          So new is the set that when I tried to download the details onto my laptop from CDDB the only one available was CD10 (Brahms 3 &4), presumably because it is the only one on the new set which is exactly the same as an existing CD. I entered the details myself and duly uploaded them.

                          Comment

                          • Stunsworth
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1553

                            Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                            For those who loved L'Arpeggiato's recent Prom, here, at bargain price for a 24 bit (24/88.2) download is their recent South American collection for Virgin:

                            http://www.qobuz.com/album/christina.../5099907095054
                            Qobuz don't let you download recordings if you're outside of France.
                            Steve

                            Comment

                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Both the Boult and the Walton Collector's[sic] Edition (only one collector?) arrived today, along with my replacement CD of Volume 1 of the Toscanini big box.

                              Comment

                              • HighlandDougie
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3108

                                Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
                                Qobuz don't let you download recordings if you're outside of France.
                                I stand to be corrected on this but I'm not sure that this is right. Some recordings might not be available to download but I've never had any problems downloading stuff when I'm in Scotland, albeit also registered iN France. Maybe DublinJimbo and PJPJ (whom I know to have used Qobuz) can confirm or not.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X