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No harpsichords in Sony's Claude Debussy Collection, but it can be had for a good price here:
Full details here:
It doesn't comply with the "less than a £ per CD" rule but still looks good value (especially for the vocal music).Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”Comment
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OK - I've got some Horowitz and others doing these, but harpsichord is definitely the way to go - except in the hands of a master pianist. I'd hoped the days when there were jokes about copulating skeletons were long gone.
The Scott Ross is very good, but if someone has Belder already and hasn't got all the way through I'd recommend hanging on to see if the prices go lower. I managed to get the SR set for a price not dissimilar to the price for the Belder set. Maybe it'll never happen again. I have both.[/QUOTE
...and do you have a preference between the two sets, Dave?Comment
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Ordered on Sunday, arrived this morning! Also arrived this morning - the Neumann Dvorak set ordered from Amazon.Com on 20 April.Originally posted by hafod View Post
A total of 38 cds.Comment
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I think you need both. There is sometimes a more immediate excitement to the Belder, but I feel a deeper scholarship and inner musical feeling to the Scott Ross (not that he's lacking in élan!).Originally posted by MickyD View Post
You also, of course, need the Staier, the Hantai, the Pinnock, the Rousset...
... Linda Nicholson on fortepiano is interesting...
... and I wdn't be without Horowitz and the various Christian Zacharias CDs - I pertick'ly like the Zacharias CD which comprises twenty tracks of him doing K 55 as an encore.... very zen, mesmerising in the best sense
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I found this set in an Oxfam shop in London for £20 about 10 years ago. (Still wrapped in plastic!) I was only in London for a day and the box kept banging against my leg as I wondered around the city with my mouth hanging open. It wasn't until I got the night train home that I realised that I had a huge bruise on both legs!Originally posted by amateur51 View PostA wonderful set hafod - I paid about £50 for it in HMV yonks ago & have never regeretted it
I once spent a summer listening to them and really enjoyed the experience although I found the recording quality got better as the set progressed. If I ever win the lottery, I would love to invite Sophie Yates to record them all.Comment
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Interesting, Vinteuil...I do have the Staier as well, but my shelves just couldn't take anymore! I'll stick with the Belder, resist the Ross and reserve what little space I have left for the long-promised Brilliant Haydn Baryton Trios!Originally posted by vinteuil View PostI think you need both. There is sometimes a more immediate excitement to the Belder, but I feel a deeper scholarship and inner musical feeling to the Scott Ross (not that he's lacking in élan!).
You also, of course, need the Staier, the Hantai, the Pinnock, the Rousset...
... Linda Nicholson on fortepiano is interesting...
... and I wdn't be without Horowitz and the various Christian Zacharias CDs - I pertick'ly like the Zacharias CD which comprises twenty tracks of him doing K 55 as an encore.... very zen, mesmerising in the best senseComment
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Not a very strong one, though I'd tend to concur with vinteuil on this. There's a lot in there, and there may be some where the preferences swing one way, sometimes the other. I have a vague feeling that the some might feel that the Belder set is a slightly clearer recording, but that's not the only factor, and it's only a very slight feeling.Originally posted by MickyD View Post
Perhaps others who know the music more intimately will have stronger views. I'll have to sample again to confirm my own. It's been a while. Maybe if both sets are exactly the same price I'd go for Ross - but then my views have been influenced by others. That's a bit like the old saying re computers "No one ever loses their job by buying IBM" (or Microsoft ...).
I'll go sample a bit more, and then come back.
Despite my comments re harpsichords, some pianists are very good - but we're talking about those with the stature of Horowitz or thereabouts.Comment
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Or as an American friend once told me: 'No one ever loses their job by buying IBM and no one ever pays more either'.Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
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Oh dear. Another one to drive me to the sin bin.Originally posted by Parry1912 View PostNo harpsichords in Sony's Claude Debussy Collection, but it can be had for a good price here:
Full details here:
It doesn't comply with the "less than a £ per CD" rule but still looks good value (especially for the vocal music).
I've not even opened the last Debussy set I bought (Naxos). This does look good.
Algorithmically:
: : (1) Price/CD = £1.21 (at the last seen price of £21.69)
: : (2) No of pieces already in collection = ??
: : (3) No of outstanding performances in the box = ??
: : (4) No of duplicated CDs or pieces within box = a few - arrangements for flute, clarinet etc.
: : (5) No of major works = ??
: : (6) No of minor works = ??
: : (7) No of CDs duplicated with own collection =??
I don't have a formula here, nor do I have exact values for (2)-(7). Some will even notice rounding in (1).
Others will have to use their own decision making process, linear or otherwise, which may simply involve looking at
:: (8) Have I (you) got any money left?
:: (9) Flip a coin!
I really don't know much about the recordings on offer here, though I do have recordings of some of the pieces - the usual suspects -
La Mer, Images, Jeux, Trois Nocturnes, sonatas, Préludes; Le Martyre de Saint Sébastien etc.
I suspect that at the price it's still very much a bargain. (Groan ....!!! Limps off to Sin Bin ....)Comment
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Lenny B's CBS/Sony Mahler is < £20 on market place (new).
Please tell me that I don't need yet another Mahler cycle.....Comment
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Ok OK - YOU DON'T NEED 'YET ANOTHER' MAHLER CYCLE!Please tell me that I don't need yet another Mahler cycle.
BUT
this isn't 'yet another', it's LENNY'S MAHLER CYCLE... so, you need it!
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But have you lost - in the scale of Dvorak how good is Neumann - for any Neumann Dvorak recording you suggest, I bet I can equal or better it. Correct, I'm not a Neumann fan!Originally posted by Parry1912 View PostDitto
Unfortunately, I had an e-mail telling me that I'm not going to get this one.
Oh, well! Some you win, some you lose.Comment
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Maybe, but my box finally arrived today all the way from KY USA. Finally!Originally posted by cloughie View Post
Now, about that Debussy .... Already have Bernstein Mahler I think, both Sony and DG versions. I'll wait to see if we win (Ukraine - currently 1 down), and then play something. Scarlatti perhaps, or the Neumann Dvorak set.Comment
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