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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
    ... complete Suzuki coming up!
    Good news - but at £3.44 per disc, it's less of a bargain than Harnoncourt/Leonhardt (half the price) or Leusink (nearly a third) for impecunious Bach Cantata hunters
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Sacred only - not the secular cantatas.
      A point I've forgotten to make - does anyone know of a complete HIPP CD/download recommendable edition of these wonderful and neglected works?
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • MickyD
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 4744

        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Sacred only - not the secular cantatas.
        Yet I see that Suzuki has already made quite a few discs of the secular cantatas on BIS - are they not to be included in the complete set?

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
          Yet I see that Suzuki has already made quite a few discs of the secular cantatas on BIS - are they not to be included in the complete set?
          Not according to the link gurne helpfully provided. Perhaps they're planning to box these separately once they've all been done? (That would nicely solve my problem! )
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            A point I've forgotten to make - does anyone know of a complete HIPP CD/download recommendable edition of these wonderful and neglected works?
            The Schreier set on Berlin Classics (also to be found licenced to Brilliant Classics) is the only separate set of the secular cantatas I know of.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              The Schreier set on Berlin Classics (also to be found licenced to Brilliant Classics) is the only separate set of the secular cantatas I know of.
              - thought so.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • MickyD
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 4744

                I have a nice 2 CD set of some of the Secular Cantatas BWV 201,206,207 recorded by Reinhard Goebel and MAK for Archiv - long-deleted, I think.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12765

                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  A point I've forgotten to make - does anyone know of a complete HIPP CD/download recommendable edition of these wonderful and neglected works?
                  ... the teldec Bach 2000 edn had as Box 5, Secular Cantatas -

                  1. bwv 134a Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre Macht; bwv 173a Durchlauchster Leopold- Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  2. bwv 201 Geschwinde, geschwinde ihr wirbelnden Winde; bwv 204 Ich bin in mir vergnugt - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  3. bwv 202 Weichet nur, betrubte Schatten; - Jaap Schroder, Concerto Amsterdam ; bwv 203 Amore Traditore; bwv 209 Non sa che sia dolore - Leonhardt, Leonhardt-Consort
                  4. bwv 207 Vereinigte Zwietracht der wechselnden Saiten - Goebel, Musica Antiqua Koln; bwv 206 Schleicht, spielende Wellen - Andre Rieu Amsterdam Chamber Orchestra
                  5. bwv 205 Zerreisset, zersprenget, zertrummert die Gruft; bwv 211 Schweigt Stille, plaudert nicht - Harnoncourt, Concentus Musicus Wien
                  6. bwv 207a Auf, schmetternde Tone der muntern Trompeten; bwv 210 O holder Tag, erwunschte Zeit - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  7. bwv 208 Was mir behagt, ist nur die muntre Jagd; bwv 212 Mer Hahn en neue Oberkeet - Harnoncourt, Concentus Musicus Wien
                  8. bwv 213 Lasst uns sorgen, lasst uns wachen - Kooopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  9. bwv 214 Tonet, ihr Pauken! Erschallen, Trompeten; bwv 215 Preise dein Glucke, gesegnetes Sachsen - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  10. bwv 190 Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied; bwv 191 Gloria; bwv 193 Ihr Tore zu Zion - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque
                  11. bwv 63 appendix Christen, atzen diesen Tag; bwv 182 appendix Himmelskonig, sei willkommen - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque; bwv 36c Schwingt freuidig euch empor - Schreier, Kammerorchester Berlin; bwv 200 Bekennen will ich sinen Namen - Werner, Sudwestdeutsches Kammerorchester Pforzheim


                  - are these available in some form?


                  EDIT : - perhaps so :






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                  Last edited by vinteuil; 13-03-16, 19:05.

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                  • hafod
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 740

                    Don't forget Rilling - a joy - the complete sacred and secular Cantatas [Edition Bachakademie] at £61.79! (it is £75 on Amazon).


                    Johann Sebastian Bach - Sacred Cantatas, (Harnoncourt, Leonhardt) [60 CD Set] - a bit cheaper at Base.com (£80.29) than AmIt (£81.80) having come down in price since #6035.
                    http://www.base.com/buy/product/joha...2564699437.htm

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12765

                      Originally posted by hafod View Post
                      Don't forget Rilling - a joy - the complete sacred and secular Cantatas [Edition Bachakademie] at £61.79! (it is £75 on Amazon).

                      ... hmmm - some find Rilling "a joy" ; but not all of us.

                      And he certainly ain't HIPP !!!

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7379

                        I got the very good 8 CD Schreier secular box as an adjunct to Leusink ..... before I got the complete teldec which of course has secular and sacred.

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... the teldec Bach 2000 edn had as Box 5, Secular Cantatas -

                        11. bwv 36c Schwingt freuidig euch empor - Schreier, Kammerorchester Berlin;

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                        Interestingly, this Schreier recording is thus on both sets.

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                        • Kamisama
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 47

                          An Amazon Marketplace seller currently has the mono set of Kempff Beethoven sonatas for under £15 (exc. delivery).
                          (DG not Regis)
                          Last edited by Kamisama; 13-03-16, 18:17. Reason: Price clarification

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... hmmm - some find Rilling "a joy" ; but not all of us.

                            And he certainly ain't HIPP !!!

                            Yes - for anyone wanting modern instruments in this repertoire, that is a bargain. But Rilling doesn't rock my boat at all, I regret.
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12765

                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              Yes - for anyone wanting modern instruments in this repertoire, that is a bargain. But Rilling doesn't rock my boat at all, I regret.
                              ... fferns : not tempted by my #6053 above??





                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... the teldec Bach 2000 edn had as Box 5, Secular Cantatas -







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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... fferns : not tempted by my #6053 above??
                                Apologies, and many thanks for the information (particularly the list of works and performers, which isn't clear from the Amazon site) - yes, I'm very tempted; but a tad above my immediate budget; I'll have to save up a couple or three months - by which time, with any luck, they'll be available at an even lower price!

                                Confession time - I had forgotten how many secular Cantatas there are
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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