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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Must admit, I was thinking of The Barras.

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    • hafod
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 740

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      Of course there is - after Breakfast?

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      • hafod
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 740

        A new DG 15cd box of Jochum conducting Beethoven, Brahms and Bruckner symphonies is listed as 'unavailable' on Am.uk, but on Am.it it is listed as due for release on 25 March and priced at €30.72!!


        The Beethoven cycle is that previously issued on Original Masters and the Bruckner will of course be the cycle from '58-'68 with the BPO & BRSO, so for many that may mean duplication. I presume that the Brahms is the mono cycle from the '50s unless there is a stereo one which I have not encountered. I do not have the mono Brahms set but have just rectified such an unfortunate oversight for £6 delivered courtesy of a MP seller.

        Correction: There are two Jochum Beethoven cycles on Original Masters - RCO and BPO/BRSO. The latter is in the new box.
        Last edited by hafod; 12-03-14, 15:21.

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        • Roehre

          Originally posted by hafod View Post
          A new DG 15cd box of Jochum conducting Beethoven, Brahms and Bruckner symphonies is listed as 'unavailable' on Am.uk, but on Am.it it is listed as due for release on 25 March and priced at €30.72!!


          The Beethoven cycle is that previously issued on Original Masters and the Bruckner will of course be the cycle from '58-'68 with the BPO & BRSO, so for many that may mean duplication. I presume that the Brahms is the mono cycle from the '50s unless there is a stereo one which I have not encountered. I do not have the mono Brahms set but have just rectified such an unfortunate oversight for £6 delivered courtesy of a MP seller.

          Correction: There are two Jochum Beethoven cycles on Original Masters - RCO and BPO/BRSO. The latter is in the new box.
          The RCO cycle was originally on Philips, and mainly made during the years that Jochum was co-chief conductor of the Concertgebouw orchestra next to Haitink.

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          • mathias broucek
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1303

            I've got all three sets already and strongly recommend snapping them up. I prefer Jochum's final Beethoven cycle (LSO) but there's some good stuff in the BRSO/BPO set and the Brahms and Bruckner are outstanding. The weakest link is (sadly) the Bruckner 8 (especially the slow movement) but this is made up for by excellent recordings of 7, 9 and (particularly) 5. I would encourage Jochum lovers to fill their collective boots....

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18015

              Is it likely that the box will eventually be issued in the UK as well? This has happened with some other boxes recently, and often the UK distribution follows fairly soon after sales are announced elsewhere if it doesn't have the initial announcement.

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18015

                Originally posted by hafod View Post
                And just look at the number of positive reviews! The very negative few are almost all about technical problems with the downloads. There is clearly a market for this sort of thing.
                At that price I also had a slice of the action.

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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7387

                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Is it likely that the box will eventually be issued in the UK as well? This has happened with some other boxes recently, and often the UK distribution follows fairly soon after sales are announced elsewhere if it doesn't have the initial announcement.
                  Big in Japan (also lists contents)

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                  • Dave2002
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18015

                    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                    Big in Japan (also lists contents)
                    Sorry - that was very helpful!

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                    • MickyD
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4763

                      This is a truly excellent bargain...five recent full price CDs of King's College Choir, with three of them being with the Academy of Ancient Music in Bach, Handel and Vivaldi. You can actually get it for under £9!

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                      • visualnickmos
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3610

                        A bargain I spotted last month on Amz France (and couldn't resist)

                        Vaughan Williams complete symphonies Previn/LSO "comme neuf" at 1.99€

                        I really did think it was a mistake, fully expecting an email to that effect, or that I'd end up with something completely different......

                        But no, it was exactly "wot it said in the tin"
                        Last edited by visualnickmos; 12-03-14, 20:08.

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                        • richardfinegold
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7666

                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          Richard

                          I've been meaning to explore Ormandy sets further, having had a lot of his LPs earlier on. One thing struck me - were the recordings issued on RCA in the US? Many were on CBS in the UK, or maybe the ones in this box were later recordings. I definitely would like to have some of Ormandy's recordings in a collection. Isn't there also a box with 20th Century music - Bartok etc., and maybe a symphony collection? Maybe there's a larger box with a bigger collection - as with the Bernstein and Walter sets. e set you have pointed out is available for about £15.50 in the UK from marketplace sellers offering UK distribution (i.e. not from Canada or the US) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...&condition=new Perhaps HMRC wouldn't be interested in the cheapest suppliers based abroad, as the value of the set is probably under their threshold - though the savings are not great. Direct from Amazon its over £20, but with the AutoRip feature which some may find convenient.


                          Cloughie answered the bulk of your question admirably. I purchased the Ormandy "20th century" box and it's excellent and priced as cheaply per disc as the Tchaikovsky set.
                          I had a roommate for two years at University who owned many Ormandy Columbia (CBS) recordings. It seemed during those early 70s years that Ormandy was rerecording the same music for RCA. I worked in a retail record shop in those years and remember how awful the RCA vinyl was, and I never really investigated most of the RCA recordings. Ormandy and Philadelphia had a strong affiliation at my school and the rumor amongst the Music Students was that the Orchestra was trying to push him out, and that seemed to be the case when Muti came in. So hearing the RCA recordings at this juncture without all of those issues in the background, such as bad vinyl and orchestra Politics, is a treat.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22120

                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            Cloughie answered the bulk of your question admirably. I purchased the Ormandy "20th century" box and it's excellent and priced as cheaply per disc as the Tchaikovsky set.
                            I had a roommate for two years at University who owned many Ormandy Columbia (CBS) recordings. It seemed during those early 70s years that Ormandy was rerecording the same music for RCA. I worked in a retail record shop in those years and remember how awful the RCA vinyl was, and I never really investigated most of the RCA recordings. Ormandy and Philadelphia had a strong affiliation at my school and the rumor amongst the Music Students was that the Orchestra was trying to push him out, and that seemed to be the case when Muti came in. So hearing the RCA recordings at this juncture without all of those issues in the background, such as bad vinyl and orchestra Politics, is a treat.
                            I may be wrong but I think that Ormandy did not get the respect he deserved. Most of his recorded performances were very good but on your side of the pond he appeared to be behind the likes of Walter, Szell, Reiner and Munch in the pecking order. I would like to see a comprehensive Sibelius box including his 50s mono recordings and all the CBS and RCA stereo recordings from the 60s and 70s. I think there is also a Beethoven Symphony cycle (CBS) which has not been issued in the UK.

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22120

                              Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                              The RCO cycle was originally on Philips, and mainly made during the years that Jochum was co-chief conductor of the Concertgebouw orchestra next to Haitink.
                              It would be nice to see a reissue of this set at a reasonable price or the for downloads to be available other than 'album only' movements to fill the gaps. The downloader 'powers that be' haven't a clue about the needs of the classical music collector.

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                              • hafod
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 740

                                AmazonUK has the 103cd Heifetz: The Complete Album Collection for £163.97 - JUST ONE LEFT!

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