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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
    • 7668

    Budget Label Artists

    I've been listening to some discs that have been sitting un played in my collection for a while that are wonderful and realizing that they have some common features: They were released on budget labels and their artists never seem to have the kind of careers that their talent seems to warrant.
    First up are the Debussy Piano Music recordings made for Vox in the early 1960s by Peter Frankl. Listening to them recently I was very impressed by his touch, his coloring, and his general feel for the Debussy idiom. I had spent the last several years listening to Michelangeli and Zimmerman in the Preludes and Uchida in the Etudes and would trot the Frankl out for the occasional listen to the composer's earlier Piano Music but after listening to Frankl in these works I believe his artistry is at least the equal of his more famous counterparts. I see that Frankl has many videos on You Tube and continued to make recordings in succeeding decades, but on these shores at least if it weren't for his Vox recordings he would be a complete unknown. I also wonder that if these recordings had been released on a label such as RCA and accompanied by a PR budget if he would not be better known and regarded presently.
    Next up is a coupling of the Schumann and Brahms Piano Quintets with Jeno Jando and the Kodaly Quartet. These are great recordings that have given me more pleasure than many more famous versions. Again, these artists recorded for Naxos, and quite voluminously as well. Perhaps their sheer fecundity on records blinds us to the occasional nuggets of gold that pop up amongst the silt.
    Also on Naxos, Bernd Glemserin Schumann Symphonic Etudes. Marvelous stuff, probably the best of many versions in my collection. I also enjoy his Tchaikovsky. Why is Glemser not better known?
    Outside of Alfred Brendel, I can't think of many artists that became known through budget recordings and then gained the respect that they merited. Some Vox Artists were great Conductors making comebacks after World War II, such as Klemperer and Horenstein. Sir Adrian Boult and Pierre Monteux also turned to budget labels when the majors treated them as over the hill, and resurrected their recording careers as a result. I wonder if the ubiquity of the budget labels (Vox and Naxos had been sold in Supermarket checkout lines in the States) tends to prejudice us against appreciating some of the performers
    Last edited by richardfinegold; 10-11-13, 00:13.
  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #2
    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
    I've been listening to some discs that have been sitting un played in my collection for a while that are wonderful and realizing that they have some common features: They were released on budget labels and their artists never seem to have the kind of careers that their talent seems to warrant.
    First up are the Debussy Piano Music recordings made for Vox in the early 1960s by Peter Frankl. Listening to them recently I was very impressed by his touch, his coloring, and his general feel for the Debussy idiom. I had spent the last several years listening to Michelangeli and Zimmerman in the Preludes and Uchida in the Etudes and would trot the Frankl out for the occasional listen to the composer's earlier Piano Music but after listening to Frankl in these works I believe his artistry is at least the equal of his more famous counterparts. I see that Frankl has many videos on You Tube and continued to make recordings in succeeding decades, but on these shores at least if it weren't for his Vox recordings he would be a complete unknown. I also wonder that if these recordings had been released on a label such as RCA and accompanied by a PR budget if he would not be better known and regarded presently.
    Next up is a coupling of the Schumann and Brahms Piano Quintets with Jeno Jando and the Kodaly Quartet. These are great recordings that have given me more pleasure than many more famous versions. Again, these artists recorded for Naxos, and quite voluminously as well. Do we tend to discount their Artisty due to hiumble origins?
    Also on Naxos, Bernd Glemserin Schumann Symphonic Etudes. Marvelous stuff, probably the best of many versions in my collection. Why is Glemser not better known?
    Outside of Alred Brendel, I can't think of many artists that became known through budget recordings and then gained the respect they merited.
    That's quite a coincidence. I have had the Frankel Debussy in my collection since the early days of CD and I dug it up a couple of weeks ago and played it for the first time in a long time. I love his Deux Arabesques. You've prompted me to play it now!

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    • Ferretfancy
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3487

      #3
      Frankl recorded all the solo piano music of Schumann in a fine Vox set of LPs in three albums which I still like to dip into.Some works, such as the Gesang der Fruhe are not heard very often. I would have liked the Piano Concerto to be there, but this is a fine collection.

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      • Stunsworth
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1553

        #4
        I'm not a musician, but I really enjoy the Jando Beethoven piano sonatas.
        Steve

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7668

          #5
          Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
          Frankl recorded all the solo piano music of Schumann in a fine Vox set of LPs in three albums which I still like to dip into.Some works, such as the Gesang der Fruhe are not heard very often. I would have liked the Piano Concerto to be there, but this is a fine collection.
          Yes, I remember that Schumann Box, because it was my introduction to Schumann's Piano Music. The lps have long since left my collection, but now you've made me want to seek out those recordings again.

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          • richardfinegold
            Full Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 7668

            #6
            Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
            I'm not a musician, but I really enjoy the Jando Beethoven piano sonatas.
            I have many Jando recordings, but no Beethoven Sonatas. I do have the Bagatelles, and it's wonderful.

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            • MickyD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4776

              #7
              I'm also fond of Jando's "48"...a great bargain on Naxos.

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                #8
                Mozart's oft-overlooked late piano trios get wonderful performances by the Kungsbacka Piano Trio on Naxos. The 'andante cantabile' of K.548 is where ataraxia is to be found.

                The Eber Quartet + 1 in the Mozart Quintets are also excellent. The Magginis in the Britten quartets, likewise.
                Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 10-11-13, 09:12.
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • mikealdren
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1201

                  #9
                  I'd add Aaron Rosand to the list and he helped us to explore the musical byways of the violin repertoire through Vox and Turnabout in the years before Naxos arrived. I don't think he ever made a recording with a well known orchestra or conductor but he still managed some memorable disks and he made a fabulous sound.

                  Mike

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22128

                    #10
                    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                    Yes, I remember that Schumann Box, because it was my introduction to Schumann's Piano Music. The lps have long since left my collection, but now you've made me want to seek out those recordings again.
                    On your mention of Frankl's Debussy I had the seeking out thought and I see they are only available on download - Vox stuff is not as readily available this side of the pond and I have snapped up things when I have seen them - Skrowacewski's Ravel, Slatkin's Rachmaninov and Abravanel's Tchaikovsky being good examples. I have picked up most of Jando's more than acceptable Mozart PCs on Naxos from Amazon/zoverstock's 1p plus postage per disc. I think its also a good idea to grab things at budget price whilst they are there - Turnabout and Supraphon were budget price LPs in the 60s - Supraphon are no longer bargains but there are many 'well worth having' recordings eg Ancerl 's legacy.

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                    • richardfinegold
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 7668

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      On your mention of Frankl's Debussy I had the seeking out thought and I see they are only available on download - Vox stuff is not as readily available this side of the pond and I have snapped up things when I have seen them - Skrowacewski's Ravel, Slatkin's Rachmaninov and Abravanel's Tchaikovsky being good examples. I have picked up most of Jando's more than acceptable Mozart PCs on Naxos from Amazon/zoverstock's 1p plus postage per disc. I think its also a good idea to grab things at budget price whilst they are there - Turnabout and Supraphon were budget price LPs in the 60s - Supraphon are no longer bargains but there are many 'well worth having' recordings eg Ancerl 's legacy.
                      Ancerl's recordings have been remastered and while not budget priced can be had reasonably via Amazon. His Prokofiev recordings are especially good.

                      Aaron Rosand was mentioned in a previous post. I heard him play the Brahms Concerto live with a community orchestra about 15 years ago. He was indeed a great player with a great sound. Many listeners were carrying old Vox lps for him to autograph. His case illustrates my point--an Artist of that stature shouldn't have to be playing with a 4th tier orchestra in a high school gymnasium. Was he undervalued because he recorded for Vox?

                      I also had checked to see if there were more Frankl recordings in circulation and saw that the Debussy was not available, although Amazon had many used versions. I have to say that transfering Vox lps to CD could be a revelation. Eliminating the surface noise and increasing the dynamic range allow one to hear the shading of dynamics and the colors that Frankl produces in this music.

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                      • amateur51

                        #12
                        Peter Frankl was a regular collaborator until relatively recently with Ralph Kirshbaum (cello) and György Pauk (violin) in piano trios, certainly at London's Wigmore Hall and often on Radio 3.

                        What about another Vox/turnabout favourite, Walter Klien?

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                        • richardfinegold
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7668

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Peter Frankl was a regular collaborator until relatively recently with Ralph Kirshbaum (cello) and György Pauk (violin) in piano trios, certainly at London's Wigmore Hall and often on Radio 3.

                          What about another Vox/turnabout favourite, Walter Klien?
                          Klein, another great mention. I have his Schubert and Mozart Sonatas on Vox. The Schubert is particularly fine. His greatest recording, however, IMO, appeared on DG, when he and the Amadeus Qt. recorded the Mozart Piano Quartets. This is a far more satisfying recording than the Rubinstein/Guarneri
                          recording, which in the States was the only recording of this music that was readily available for many years. The DG never made it to CD, and I ordered an lp version from Spain a few years ago

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                          • EdgeleyRob
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            #14
                            The conductor Alexander Rahbari, one time assistant to Karajan I believe.
                            I have his Naxos DSCH 5,9&10,Brahms Serenade 1 and Tchaikovsky Serenade for Strings and some Wagner Overtures,excellent cds in my non-expert view.
                            Loads of Opera on Naxos too which I am not familiar with.

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                            • Don Petter

                              #15
                              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                              Peter Frankl was a regular collaborator until relatively recently with Ralph Kirshbaum (cello) and György Pauk (violin) in piano trios, certainly at London's Wigmore Hall and often on Radio 3.

                              I remember hearing them at the Wigmore, and we weren't at all impressed with Frankl's contribution, which has rather put me off him ever since. Perhaps it was just a bad night.

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