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  • mathias broucek
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1303

    Maazel on record

    Prompted by the reissue of some of his Cleveland material referred to on the Bargains Thread, I wonder what people's experiences of Maazel's recordings are.

    I have some of his early-ish stuff with BPO and VPO on DG and Decca respectively and it's pretty good.

    I have very few of his more recent recordings, just his BRSO Richard Strauss which I rather enjoyed - not least because both orchestra and sound are both excellent.

    The British press has generally been rude about his time in Cleveland (and his work since) period and I once heard some rather dull Mahler with the VPO.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by mathias broucek; 23-10-13, 16:23.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    I quite like some of his stuff from the '60s - the VPO Sibelius Symphonies, the Tchaikovsky cycle and (especially) the Ravel operas - and the Scriabin disc with Ashkenasy, the Mahler Fourth from the CBS/SONY set and the BPO Zemlinsky aren't at all bad. But very little he's done really appeals to me beyond that.
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    • umslopogaas
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1977

      #3
      I've always valued the Decca Sibelius symphony cycle and have all of them on LP. Nothing else comes to mind, though I'm sure I've got other works conducted by him.

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      • visualnickmos
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3610

        #4
        Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
        I've always valued the Decca Sibelius symphony cycle and have all of them on LP. Nothing else comes to mind, though I'm sure I've got other works conducted by him.
        Agreed! I have the Decca set on Belart (I think they are the same recordings)

        I have one or two CDs of him conducting Richard Strauss; very good, they are. And a Beethoven 4th and 5th symphony, which is also good. In fact I'm going to give it a spin this evening..... just to check!
        Last edited by visualnickmos; 23-10-13, 16:32.

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        • Madame Suggia
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          • Sep 2012
          • 189

          #5
          His recording of Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges and Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet are wonderful

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          • visualnickmos
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3610

            #6
            Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
            .....a Beethoven 4th and 5th symphony, which I also very good. In fact I'm going to give it a spin this evening..... just to check!
            Actually the 5th which is on as I write is sort of, well, I don't know really. I want to like it, but there is something that I can't quite put my finger on. Perhaps a little too 'pleasant' whereas I feel it should be slightly more combustible. And let's face it, there are literally hundreds of cracking Beethoven symphonies out there! Maazel is just too neat and tidy. Would be fab if it was Haydn!

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3610

              #7
              Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
              His recording of Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges and Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet are wonderful
              Yes it (Ravel) is - I'd forgotten about that

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                #8
                I too like his VPO Tchaikovsky and Sibelius cycles. Also his New Year's Day concert recordings are among the better ones. Quite a decent Alpine Symphony too.
                I bought hos Mahler cycle, which is uneven with a great 4 and a very dull 8.

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                • gurnemanz
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7386

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
                  His recording of Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges and Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet are wonderful
                  I'll second that. In fact these seem to be my only two recordings by him.

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                  • amateur51

                    #10
                    He's never struck me as a conductor of the first rank; there is always a better alternative performance from another conductor, it seems to me.

                    If I want a Sibelius symphony cycle then I go to Davis, Vanska or Berglund. If I want the two works mentioned by Ravel or Prokofiev then I go to Previn, etc etc.

                    And ss he much of an accompanist in concertos, for instance? I don't recall any at all.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26533

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
                      His recording of Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges and Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet are wonderful
                      Yes!! Utterly brilliant.

                      I have a CD of bleeding chunks of Wagner (Sony Classics) that's pretty electrifying.

                      I've been teetering on the edge of buying the VPO Sibelius set for ages, the extracts from No 3 put me off a bit (BAL the other week).
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Parry1912
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 963

                        #12
                        There's his disc of Ravel Piano Concertos with Jean-Phillippe Collard (a Gramophone Award winner), Zemlinsky's Lyric Symphony with Varady and Fischer-Diskau, an excellent Don Quixote with Steven Isserlis and the Vienna Mahler 1st.
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                        • gradus
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5607

                          #13
                          I still enjoy his recording of the Rachmaninov Symphonic dances with the BPO.

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                          • remdataram
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 154

                            #14
                            I'm another who loves the Maazel/VPO Mahler No.4 (even more than Szell). I was also introduced to Sibelius with Maazel's 2nd Symphony recording on Decca.

                            I also remember watching a German TV relay of a Beethoven concert re-enacting the concert of 22nd December 1808 that included the 5th & 6th Symphonies, 4th Piano Concerto and Choral Fantasia! It was a superb concert!

                            Beyond that, little of note..... I suspect Rattle will achieve a similar status with his CBSO recording of Mahler No.2 as his memorial.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              His recording of Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliette with the Cleveland Orchestra has long been one that I much admire.

                              Last edited by Bryn; 23-10-13, 21:18.

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