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  • zola
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 656

    New music ghetto

    I shall listen to this evening's Hear and Now with McGregor and Service discussing recent "new music" discs and it will probably be an interesting hour. However, it smacks of another Radio 3 management wheeze to marginalise anything slightly challenging. This programme is win / win from their point of view, cheap programming with just those two in a studio chatting and playing cds plus keeping anything that might disturb the horses off of daytime programming. And Andrew McGregor did seem to indicate this would be an occasional series, thus repeating the formula.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    My sentiments exactly, zola. I used to badger the CDR team regularly for more "New Music" labels (KAIROS, neos, aeon, Stradivarius, col legno, NMC etc etc) to be included on the main programme. Instead, we're given this - concerts of Music suspended whilst CD news is put on at a time when only the already-involved will be listening.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3
      What's the difference between a Niche and a Ghetto ?

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30283

        #4
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        What's the difference between a Niche and a Ghetto ?
        A ghetto makes access deliberately difficult. Anyone can get on to a niche - it expands in size to cope with new arrivals... :-)

        Judging from #1 this looks like the same thinking as removing all the new music from the television Proms broadcast and putting the detached pieces into a single programme. Phew! Thank heavens, Don't have to watch that Fortunately it clashes with Downton Abbey &c &c
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • amateur51

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Fortunately it clashes with Downton Abbey &c &c

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30283

            #6
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Judging from #1 this looks like the same thinking as removing all the new music from the television Proms broadcast and putting the detached pieces into a single programme.
            A letter was written to the Director of the Proms/ Chair of BBC Classical Music Board/ Controller of Radio 3 asking for a comment on this (and the fact that the classical music was cut from the BBC Three broadcast of the Urban Classic Prom). Receipt of the letter was acknowledged by the said mandarin's PA, though so far without the comment requested.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Fortunately it clashes with Downton Abbey &c &c
              What's that ?

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25209

                #8
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                What's that ?
                its a small building society based near Salisbury.

                Possibly.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Zucchini
                  Guest
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 917

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  What's that ?
                  The programme Kiri Te Kanawa's in

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                    The programme Kiri Te Kanawa's in
                    Yes - a Kiwi playing an Aussie. Hmm...

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                    • Richard Barrett

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      What's that ?
                      Probably some minority-interest "show" concocted in a pathetically desperate attempt to coax a few listeners away from Stockhausen.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        Probably some minority-interest "show" concocted in a pathetically desperate attempt to coax a few listeners away from Stockhausen.
                        Fools, the lot of em

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                        • zola
                          Full Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 656

                          #13
                          Having listened, I can't see why this could not have sat perfectly happily within the body of a Saturday morning CD Review. Since Stephen Plaistow is indisposed and will not have completed his scheduled building a library for next week, how about broadcasting the first 45 minutes of this programme instead of repeating an old BAL on another Mozart piano concerto ? Whoosh, there goes a flying pig.

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