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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11713

    Saint Saens Piano Concertos

    I have the old EMI France recordings with Jeanne Marie Darre ( don't ask me to type acute accents !) but am on the look out for a modern stereo version to complement that classic set .

    Any recommendations - Roge and Collard seem a great deal cheaper than the Hough .
  • rauschwerk
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1481

    #2
    I think Hough/Oramo is probably well worth the extra money. Rogé himself is excellent but there is some rancid woodwind tuning in No. 4. The Collard set I don't know.

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    • visualnickmos
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      • Nov 2010
      • 3610

      #3
      There a nice 2-CD set on Sony with Philippe Entremont, and L'Orchestre du Capitole du Toulouse/Michel Plasson.

      OK - the recorded sound is just a tad under par, but nevertheless, worth a spin.

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      • Ferretfancy
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #4
        The Collard set is excellent, especially No. 4. Rubinstein for me in No. 2

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        • Parry1912
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 965

          #5
          The Roge set can be had for £1.37 + p&p on the Amazon marketplace. I don't think you can go too far wrong at that price.
          Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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          • Rolmill
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            • Nov 2010
            • 634

            #6
            I had the Roge, but gave it away when I was given the Hough a few years ago. The Hough is, I think, better played (especially the orchestra) and recorded, but slightly more hard-driven sometimes - I rather miss Roge's more relaxed approach in places.

            As it happens, I wouldn't mind getting the Darre set, if it's available at a sensible price. I don't know the Collard, but agree with ff's approval of Rubinstein's no.2, played with real sparkle.

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            • richardfinegold
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              • Sep 2012
              • 7694

              #7
              Chinese Food Music. Amusing to hear while you are listening, and not a note sticks in the memory an hour later.

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              • Roehre

                #8
                I would be happy with either set: Collard, Entremont or Rogé

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                • Roehre

                  #9
                  Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                  Chinese Food Music. Amusing to hear while you are listening, and not a note sticks in the memory an hour later.
                  Cum'mon RFG: the fanfares of 1, the stormy weather at the seaside in 2, the celtic melodies in 4, the waterfall in 3, that Egyptioan tune in 5, they once all were earworms in my head

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7770

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                    Cum'mon RFG: the fanfares of 1, the stormy weather at the seaside in 2, the celtic melodies in 4, the waterfall in 3, that Egyptioan tune in 5, they once all were earworms in my head

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                    • richardfinegold
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 7694

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                      Cum'mon RFG: the fanfares of 1, the stormy weather at the seaside in 2, the celtic melodies in 4, the waterfall in 3, that Egyptioan tune in 5, they once all were earworms in my head

                      Are all of these delights accompanied by a fortune cookie?

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                      • rauschwerk
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1481

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                        Cum'mon RFG: the fanfares of 1, the stormy weather at the seaside in 2, the celtic melodies in 4, the waterfall in 3, that Egyptioan tune in 5, they once all were earworms in my head
                        Funny thing about 'memorable' tunes - its seems to me that earworms are not by any means universal. I can't recall any tunes from Nos 1, 3 and 5 despite having heard them all several times. I have some sympathy with Cortot, who played only No. 4. He considered it a masterpiece and the others not worth bothering with.

                        Another point about Rogé's set is his idiosyncratic articulation of the main theme of 2/iii. It is quite at variance with the composer's autograph MS: see http://javanese.imslp.info/files/img..._Autograph.pdf p.116

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                          Funny thing about 'memorable' tunes - its seems to me that earworms are not by any means universal. I can't recall any tunes from Nos 1, 3 and 5 despite having heard them all several times. I have some sympathy with Cortot, who played only No. 4. He considered it a masterpiece and the others not worth bothering with.
                          There you go: one man's "earworm" is another man's "dodgy prawn".
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Roehre

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                            ...Another point about Rogé's set is his idiosyncratic articulation of the main theme of 2/iii. It is quite at variance with the composer's autograph MS: see http://javanese.imslp.info/files/img..._Autograph.pdf p.116
                            Good point indeed

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                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              There you go: one man's "earworm" is another man's "dodgy prawn".
                              You're on form today, ferney

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