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  • Conchis
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    • Jun 2014
    • 2396

    I have heard this symphony once in concert (RPO/Neeme Jarvi, RAH, 1999) and own several recordings of it, but I remain unconvinced by every performance other than Bernsteins's from 1965.

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
      I have heard this symphony once in concert (RPO/Neeme Jarvi, RAH, 1999) and own several recordings of it, but I remain unconvinced by every performance other than Bernsteins's from 1965.
      Have you heard Gielen's with the Berlin Phil.?

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26516

        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Have you heard Gielen's with the Berlin Phil.?
        It's absolutely fantastic.
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Conchis
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          • Jun 2014
          • 2396

          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Have you heard Gielen's with the Berlin Phil.?

          I've yet to sample the Gielen cycle.

          The ones I know are:

          Bernstein (NYPO and VPO)
          Solti
          Klemperer
          Tennestedt
          Abbado (BPO)
          Chailly
          Bernini

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
            I've yet to sample the Gielen cycle.
            The BPO/Gielen is not part of his cycle, but a Live recording (literally - the one performance) of a concert where Gielen had to step in for an indisposed Tennstedt. It is absolutely superb (and "fantastic", as Cali says).

            The '60s Bernstein is very, very good - but I think that Gielen/BPO pips even that.

            (And, rotten sound notwithstanding, Horenstein with the New Phil is pretty damn fine, too:

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11663

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              The BPO/Gielen is not part of his cycle, but a Live recording (literally - the one performance) of a concert where Gielen had to step in for an indisposed Tennstedt. It is absolutely superb (and "fantastic", as Cali says).

              The '60s Bernstein is very, very good - but I think that Gielen/BPO pips even that.

              (And, rotten sound notwithstanding, Horenstein with the New Phil is pretty damn fine, too:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaOKycJF574
              A terrific pioneering performance with two orchestras coupled with a thriller of a Nielsen 5 https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/mgj/Niels...sen+barbirolli

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              • PJPJ
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                • Nov 2010
                • 1461

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                It's absolutely fantastic.
                Re Gielen's Mahler 7, Berlin PO on Testament - yes, it is absolutely fantastic!

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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12229

                  Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                  Re Gielen's Mahler 7, Berlin PO on Testament - yes, it is absolutely fantastic!
                  Another vote in favour of the BPO/Gielen. I bought it following Cali's original recommendation and wasn't disappointed.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • jayne lee wilson
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 10711

                    This thread seems to be an orbiting satellite, glinting in the dazzling bare sunlight as it comes around again....so as I said above....

                    "My own off-the-beatens for Mahler 7 would include the 1975 Kondrashin/Leningrad Phil on Melodiya, and the Leipzig Gewandhaus/Neumann on Berlin Classics (1968, Haus Auensee). The first for its colouristic fantasy and sheer character, the Neumann for its forthright drama and sharp attack. (The latter has the Caspar David Friedrich landscape on its cover which at one time graced Sawallisch' Schumann cycle, differently tinted - still there on Toshiba)".

                    Respect to the RCOA/Kondrashin one, but the Leningrad Phil are at their amazing best in this 7th, virtuoso both in response to quick tempi and that vivid characterisation. Their 6th is pretty remarkable too, one of the fastest (or even the fastest) on record, stunning in its intensity and power....

                    The Russian-ness of the Leningrad sound only adds to the sheer individuality of their Mahler with KK. The lovely pale cream & yellow boxset of KK's Melodiya Mahler had wonderful cover art, by William Blake and Alfred Roller. Something of a cherished objet d'art.

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                    • mahlerei
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                      • Jun 2015
                      • 357

                      I must cast a dissenting vote re Gielen's BPO Mahler 7; I much prefer his Baden-Baden und Freiburg performance. He developed a very special relationship with that orchestra and it shows in the cycle as a whole. That intuitive 'connection' simply isn't there in the Berlin recording, IMO.

                      Will be interesting to see how Vänskä's Minnesota cycle for BIS pans out. Nos. 5 and 6 in the can, 1, 2 and 4 to follow.
                      Last edited by mahlerei; 20-06-17, 14:14.

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11663

                        Better late than never .

                        I finally got round to buying this in Presto’s Testament sale.

                        Wish I had been in the Philharmonie that night. The performance is absolutely outstanding both as a conception and the BPO playing just constantly makes one draw breath. The recording for a radio recording is wonderfully lifelike it makes one feel one was there . It has great atmosphere.

                        Thanks Caliban - just sorry I waited so long.

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7642

                          Rereading jlw comments of two years ago, I would be interested in hearing Kondrashin, as I was quite taken with his 6th

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11663

                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            Rereading jlw comments of two years ago, I would be interested in hearing Kondrashin, as I was quite taken with his 6th
                            Not a composer I would associate KK with I must admit.

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                            • vinteuil
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12768

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              Not a composer I would associate KK with I must admit.
                              .

                              ... no?

                              - this is very recommendable :




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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                That set appears to have suffered a marginal increase in price since I paid £23.36 (including p&p) for it, 12 years ago. How often do you get the chance to hear the vocal parts of the 3rd i Russian (or German on supplementary tracks)?

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