Bruckner 5th

[reinerfan]

The two Bruckner Symphonies are available on a Membran 4 CD set which includes all the Brahms Symphonies.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rudolf-Kempe-Performs-4cd-Longbox/dp/B0009F2FIQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1377150342&sr=1-1&keywords=kempe+memb

[HighlandDougie]

The two Bruckner Symphonies are available on a Membran 4 CD set which includes all the Brahms Symphonies.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rudolf-Kempe...rds=kempe+memb

Very well spotted, RF, cheap as chips from Amazon Marketplace here in France so duly ordered. I much liked the Bruckner 4th when it was on an Acanta LP so, with Karafan's ringing endorsement, I'm much looking forward to Kempe's 5th.

[HighlandDougie]

The two Bruckner Symphonies are available on a Membran 4 CD set which includes all the Brahms Symphonies.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rudolf-Kempe...rds=kempe+memb

Very well spotted, RF, cheap as chips from Amazon Marketplace here in France so duly ordered. I much liked the Bruckner 4th when it was on an Acanta LP so, with Karafan's ringing endorsement, I'm looking forward to Kempe's 5th.

[BBMmk2]

No-one has mentioned Gunter Wand's or Eugene Jochum's?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

No-one has mentioned Gunter Wand's or Eugene Jochum's?

richardfinegold mentions Jochum's Dresden account twice, Bbm, and Stanfordian the BPO/Wand (in #13).

[LaurieWatt]

Richard, this was extremely well received, critically, as well - a live performance when the LPO were on tour in Austria. I think from the Musikverein in Vienna. I have it and love it! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-No-...ckner+5+welser

[amateur51]

richardfinegold mentions Jochum's Dresden account twice, Bbm, and Stanfordian the BPO/Wand (in #13).

Thanks ferney - I just couldn't be faffed to look

He's a caution, that Bbm

[akiralx]

No-one has mentioned Gunter Wand's or Eugene Jochum's?

Jochum I do not like in Bruckner - too many unmarked tempo changes, particularly in the second (EMI) cycle.

[HighlandDougie]

cheap as chips from Amazon Marketplace here in France

Alas, now we know why. Despite the fact that it says, "licensed from Fono Team" (who they?), it sounds as if the CDs are transfers from vinyl as various stray noises appear from time to time - and the general sound quality is veiled and has little or no depth. I'll just have to put the (legitimate) Acanta reissue of the 5th on my, "if I ever see it" list

[scottycelt]

Jochum I do not like in Bruckner - too many unmarked tempo changes, particularly in the second (EMI) cycle.

Maybe, but Bruckner himself changed his scores on the advice of the odd conductor, anyway, and fellow-Austrian Jochum often gets to the gritty heart of the composer's music, imv.

For me, Wand is supreme in Nos 3, 4 & 8 but it just has to be Jochum in 5 & 7! I love the Bernstein 9th which conveys perfectly Bruckner finally 'letting rip' emotionally and to which that lofty and unique 'dedication' itself seems to hint.

Still, I'll take just about any Bruckner and not be too unhappy!

[Petrushka]

Maybe, but Bruckner himself changed his scores on the advice of the odd conductor, anyway, and fellow-Austrian Jochum often gets to the gritty heart of the composer's music, imv.

For me, Wand is supreme in Nos 3, 4 & 8 but it just has to be Jochum in 5 & 7! I love the Bernstein 9th which conveys perfectly Bruckner finally 'letting rip' emotionally and to which that lofty and unique 'dedication' itself seems to hint.

Still, I'll take just about any Bruckner and not be too unhappy!

Jochum's 5th with the Concertgebouw in a live 1986 relay available on Tahra is quite superb. He always did have a special affinity with the 7th and I was lucky enough to see him perform it with the Vienna Philharmonic in London in 1982. The Dresden Staatskapelle recording was counted by Richard Osborne as one of the great 7ths on record on its release and so it remains. Jochum also has a live Bruckner 4 on the Tahra label and that too is excellent (Concertgebouw) despite the odd audience intrusion.

[mathias broucek]

Jochum's 5th with the Concertgebouw in a live 1986 relay available on Tahra is quite superb. He always did have a special affinity with the 7th and I was lucky enough to see him perform it with the Vienna Philharmonic in London in 1982. The Dresden Staatskapelle recording was counted by Richard Osborne as one of the great 7ths on record on its release and so it remains. Jochum also has a live Bruckner 4 on the Tahra label and that too is excellent (Concertgebouw) despite the odd audience intrusion.

There are other Jochum/RCO issues - a rather good 6th on Tahra and a late 7th from Tokyo on Altus. The 1986 5th (there's also one from 1964 on Phillips).

[Petrushka]

There are other Jochum/RCO issues - a rather good 6th on Tanta and a late 7th from Tokyo on Altus. The 1986 5th (there's also one from 1964 on Phillips).

Thanks for the pointer to the 6th which I thought was only available as part of the Concertgebouw anthology. I have the 1964 recording of the 5th and very fine it is too, having played it just a week or two back. That 1982 VPO 7th at the RFH was, I think, the BBC's first digital recording (broadcast in 1983) and I had it on cassette at one time. If some kind boarder has a recording I would love to hear it again. Mozart 33 was in the first half. A legendary concert in my view.

[gurnemanz]

Not an authority on this work. I saw it once with Masur in Leipzig in DDR days. For many years (until I got the big Karajan symphony box) my only CD version was Furtwängler live which is really exhilarating.

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[mathias broucek]

Thanks for the pointer to the 6th which I thought was only available as part of the Concertgebouw anthology. I have the 1964 recording of the 5th and very fine it is too, having played it just a week or two back. That 1982 VPO 7th at the RFH was, I think, the BBC's first digital recording (broadcast in 1983) and I had it on cassette at one time. If some kind boarder has a recording I would love to hear it again. Mozart 33 was in the first half. A legendary concert in my view.

The RCO Altus 7th is from 1982 and is also paired with Mozart 33