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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    Cantelli set? any comments?

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      Cantelli set? any comments?
      Did he record all Four, DracoM? I only know of (and can find) the Fourth - and I didn't know about that before the BaL the other week. The excerpts played there sounded astonishingly good.
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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22119

        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Did he record all Four, DracoM? I only know of (and can find) the Fourth - and I didn't know about that before the BaL the other week. The excerpts played there sounded astonishingly good.
        As far as I know only No4, and it is really good.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          I’ve been recommended the JEGGERS and Sawallisch. I may buy both!
          I thought that you'd said that you'd discovered that you already had the JEGgers set, Bbm?
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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            I thought that you'd said that you'd discovered that you already had the JEGgers set, Bbm?
            YES!!! Post # 4435 on the "Wotchoo Lissnin 2?" Thread, posted three days ago!

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              Ah yes! Sorry! Bad brain day. Also that choral work is too!
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • jayne lee wilson
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                Want a real outlier, a risk-taking full-orchestral original...? Try this...



                I haven't had time to listen extensively this time round (the 1851 4th is great, although I still feel the Rhenish 1st Movement (pretty fast for paddle steamers - 7'39!) is just a bit too fast...), but it might prove a more substantial pleasure than returning yet again to 4th-only Cantelli, Furtwangler et al...

                Yes, one for the adventurous, but the transfers are very good and it's never dulled by familiarity... lovely presentation set, with Boult's own extensive and fascinating notes (about playing the Schumann Symphonies with Fanny Davies as a duet, for example.."a wonderful lesson in interpretation" Boult says)...
                (even includes some very dodgy, heavily sexist (to say the very least), what-were-they-thinking-of cover-art from the original LPs... look away now, etc)***.

                But musical and historical interest - sky-high.

                (*** actually "September Morn" by Paul Chabas. Sort of thing you might consider temporarily removing from a gallery wall...but repeated across 4 ​LP covers...? ).
                Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 13-06-18, 19:14.

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25209

                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Want a real outlier, a risk-taking full-orchestral original...? Try this...



                  I haven't had time to listen extensively this time round (the 1851 4th is great, although I still feel the Rhenish 1st Movement (pretty fast for paddle steamers - 7'39!) is just a bit too fast...), but it might prove a more substantial pleasure than returning yet again to 4th-only Cantelli, Furtwangler et al...

                  Yes, one for the adventurous, but the transfers are very good and it's never dulled by familiarity... lovely presentation set, with Boult's own extensive and fascinating notes (about playing the Schumann Symphonies with Fanny Davies as a duet, for example.."a wonderful lesson in interpretation" Boult says)...
                  (even includes some very dodgy, heavily sexist (to say the very least), what-were-they-thinking-of cover-art from the original LPs... look away now, etc)***.

                  But musical and historical interest - sky-high.

                  (*** actually "September Morn" by Paul Chabas. Sort of thing you might consider temporarily removing from a gallery wall...but repeated across 4 ​LP covers...? ).
                  Just given the Spring a listen on Youtube. What a great recommendation. Very easy indeed to forget that this is from the mid 50's.

                  In the second movement he has a great way of bringing out rhythmic interest by using emphasis across the sections. Endless surprises in the Scherzo, and loved the woodwind in the finale.
                  And he rolls out a fabulous sound just when it is most needed , in that finale in the big rising harmonic minor scale.


                  Blimey , that artwork....not the sort of thing a middle aged fellow should be googling...

                  Thanks Jayne. Loved it. ( the music not the LP cover !!)

                  ( Quibble.....Could live without the massive Rall in the first movement though....).
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11680

                    This is a set I have been meaning to get hold of for ages. Meanwhile a plug for Bruno Walter's Rhenish - a symphony that I have found difficult in the past - HVK 's recording was my first and it did not make me fall for the piece. Walter's 1941 account is an old recording but one hell of a performance.

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11680

                      Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                      Want a real outlier, a risk-taking full-orchestral original...? Try this...



                      I haven't had time to listen extensively this time round (the 1851 4th is great, although I still feel the Rhenish 1st Movement (pretty fast for paddle steamers - 7'39!) is just a bit too fast...), but it might prove a more substantial pleasure than returning yet again to 4th-only Cantelli, Furtwangler et al...

                      Yes, one for the adventurous, but the transfers are very good and it's never dulled by familiarity... lovely presentation set, with Boult's own extensive and fascinating notes (about playing the Schumann Symphonies with Fanny Davies as a duet, for example.."a wonderful lesson in interpretation" Boult says)...
                      (even includes some very dodgy, heavily sexist (to say the very least), what-were-they-thinking-of cover-art from the original LPs... look away now, etc)***.

                      But musical and historical interest - sky-high.

                      (*** actually "September Morn" by Paul Chabas. Sort of thing you might consider temporarily removing from a gallery wall...but repeated across 4 ​LP covers...? ).
                      Finally , have listened to this set - what a terrific cycle of the symphonies. I agree that the opening of the Rhenish is pretty fast but rather that than too slow . The performances are very energetic and exciting and Boult does not over indulge the slow movements .

                      The Berlioz overtures are very good too .

                      I join the chorus of recommendations.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        I thought the Simon Rattle set very good. I would like to hear Harnoncourt and the CoE as well though, as I do rather like this partnership.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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