Schumann Symphonies Complete Set

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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26575

    #31
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    I love the Kubelik DG but I think Caliban found the sound much too dry for his ears as I recall so a word of warning on that - it is true that my analogue cassette of the Spring Symphony sounds airier if hissier . The Sony performances are better recorded but a bt less interesting as I remember
    Oh yes, well remembered Barb! I bought that but sent it back, couldn't live with it!

    The things one forgets
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12334

      #32
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      Last time this came up, I invested in the Szell. Still love the Sawallisch best...



      I'm surprised you say that, Pet. It's the airy, natural sound that's one of its joys I think!
      I have it in the GROC incarnation and wonder if the remastering is at fault. In any event, BPO/Kubelik is the one for me with BPO/Karajan a close second.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • gurnemanz
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7416

        #33
        Sawallisch/Dresden was my only set on LP for many years. I have more recently acquired several good CD sets already mentioned - JEG, Karajan, Bernstein, also Masur/LPO not yet mentioned.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
          Yes yes yes and yes again!
          Didn't Szell beggar around with the orchestration?
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Interesting point: didn't Solti record the works with [the VPO]? At the risk of invoking risible nationalist stereotypes, is it possible that Schumann's orchestral work need a more "Germanic" whoomff to them than the more easy-going grace of the Viennese?



            D'you know - even as I wrote that, it occured to me that I was talking sphericals.
            Other recordings with the VPO were made by Bernstein (as Alpie pointed out - also on DVD), Mehta and Muti (the later set).
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #36
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              I have it in the GROC incarnation and wonder if the remastering is at fault.
              That's very interesting... I have a much earlier version, from 1988





              I was wondering whether I ought to 'upgrade' to the newer mastering but it sounds like I should stick with what I like...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • jayne lee wilson
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                #37
                Each remastering of the Sawallisch set I've heard has improved it - EMI Studio: uncomfortable - resonant, bright and a bit boomy; EMI Groc - sweeter, greater refinement & definition; EMI Toshiba - sweetest and most spacious of all, better def. at low levels too. The early Lukaskirche recording is the root cause, how far you go with these editions depends on how much you love it! But to my ears, the Groc isn't bad at all.

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                • Pabmusic
                  Full Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 5537

                  #38
                  I haven't heard the Zinman/Baltimore set, but I do have the Zinman/Tonhalle Zurich set, which is really good (he uses natural horns with a modern orchestra, which is successful). I also have the 1956 Boult set with the LPO (very 'modern' sounding - far removed from what was usual in the 50s - even a bit hard-driven occasionally). Sawallisch, Thomas Daussgard, Antoni Wit and Riccardo Chailly are my others. Chailly uses Mahler's tinkerings (not necessary at all, but interesting nonetheless).

                  All of these sets give great pleasure.

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                  • Arcades Project

                    #39
                    Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                    Hanover Band / Roy Goodman


                    Which I also have, to add to my unique collection of Schumann symphony recordings no one else is interested in . Just played the 'Rhenish' & definitely





                    Thanks for reminding me, waldhorn.

                    Horn playing isn't half bad ....

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                    • vibratoforever
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 149

                      #40
                      I only ever acquired one set of the 4 symphonies - Zinman, Tonhalle - but parted with it quickly.

                      Have to agree with the comments praising the Furtwangler 4, one of the best lps I ever bought. Gunter Wand's performance is the only one I have felt has come close.

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                      • akiralx
                        Full Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 429

                        #41
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        Each remastering of the Sawallisch set I've heard has improved it - EMI Studio: uncomfortable - resonant, bright and a bit boomy; EMI Groc - sweeter, greater refinement & definition; EMI Toshiba - sweetest and most spacious of all, better def. at low levels too. The early Lukaskirche recording is the root cause, how far you go with these editions depends on how much you love it! But to my ears, the Groc isn't bad at all.
                        I trust you will be getting the very nice SACDs then...

                        One recent set I have enjoyed a lot is Oramo and the Royal Stockholm SO on Sony.

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                        • MickyD
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4835

                          #42
                          Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                          Hanover Band / Roy Goodman


                          For some reason, this set from the HB passed me by...I must try and get my hands on a copy. Is it still available?

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                          • Dave2002
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18049

                            #43
                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            I have Kubelik, Szell, Barenboim,and Karajan. Von K is the most consistently satisfying.
                            I didn't want to like Karajan. One day I heard one of the symphonies "blind" - probably on R3. I bought Karajan's set (DG) shortly afterwards - it is very good. I also like Kubelik and Sawallisch, and Szell.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #44
                              Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                              For some reason, this set from the HB passed me by...I must try and get my hands on a copy. Is it still available?
                              It is, but not at bargain basement prices.

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                              • PJPJ
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1461

                                #45
                                Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                                I trust you will be getting the very nice [Sawallsich] SACDs then...
                                They would be very nice if they also supplied the four channel mastering of the original LPs. As they're stereo only, and 24/96, the high resolution downloads will do just as well if you are set up for these, and may even be preferable to the SACDs; for one, the downloads from qobuz are a hell of a lot cheaper than the Japanese SACDs.

                                Listen to Wolfgang Sawallisch in unlimited streaming on Qobuz and buy the albums in Hi-Res 24-Bit for an unequalled sound quality. Subscription from $10.83/month


                                Highly recommended.

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