Dorati- Tchaikovsky

[richardfinegold]

Working my way through the second Mercury Box, the Dorati Tcahikovsky 4th and Sixth Symphonies and Francesca Di Rimini are very interesting interpretations. Dorati was known as a ballet conductor and more than any recordings that I have heard of these overly familiar works, the dance element is played to the hilt. Most of this sounds as if it could easily be inserted into one of the great ballets, and I think it works very well for the quitter parts of 4:1 and
Francesca.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

His mono Swan Lake remains one of the best, thiugh the orchestra used appears to be rather a small one.

[Ferretfancy]

Working my way through the second Mercury Box, the Dorati Tcahikovsky 4th and Sixth Symphonies and Francesca Di Rimini are very interesting interpretations. Dorati was known as a ballet conductor and more than any recordings that I have heard of these overly familiar works, the dance element is played to the hilt. Most of this sounds as if it could easily be inserted into one of the great ballets, and I think it works very well for the quitter parts of 4:1 and
Francesca.

It's a shame that the earlier Tchaikovsky symphonies are not in either Mercury box, as they are really fine. Dorati makes a good case for the Polish, and the first two are also excellent. These discs are well worth seeking out, they were available on CD until recently.

[BBMmk2]

Have you the first Mercury box.

[richardfinegold]

Have you the first Mercury box.

No, to my regret

[amateur51]

It's my age & eyesight i know, but I frequently read the title of this thread as "Doris Tchaikovsky"

[Dave2002]

No, to my regret

Is it hard to get again? I waited quite a while before buying volume 1, and thought it was going to become unavailable, but after a year it reappeared and I took the plunge. Maybe I should go for vol 2 before that also drops off the radar. I suspect that if you keep your eyes open, some copies of vol 1 will reappear, though could be sporadic.

Some CDs do drop out and it can be very curious. I don't fully understand why Monteux's Beethoven symphonies are not always available. Thus the Decca/London versions of 2,4,5 and 7 are hard to get, while there are still new copies of 1,3,6 and 8. Similar considerations apply to his Dvorak 7, though it has come back on Australian Eloquence - though there could be concerns about AMSI processing - I'm not sure if it applies to that issue.

[PJPJ]

Similar considerations apply to his Dvorak 7, though it has come back on Australian Eloquence - though there could be concerns about AMSI processing - I'm not sure if it applies to that issue.

I have this, and it doesn't sound like it's been AMSIed.

[Barbirollians]

Monteux's Swan Lake highlights disc is magical - is that not out on Eloquence yet ???

[Karafan]

It's my age & eyesight i know, but I frequently read the title of this thread as "Doris Tchaikovsky"

She was a lovely woman, Ams, though her mother never forgave her for marrying a bl**dy foreigner

[richardfinegold]

She was a lovely woman, Ams, though her mother never forgave her for marrying a bl**dy foreigner

Especially when she found out it was a sham marriage, and that no Grandchildren would be forthcoming.

[richardfinegold]

Is it hard to get again? I waited quite a while before buying volume 1, and thought it was going to become unavailable, but after a year it reappeared and I took the plunge. Maybe I should go for vol 2 before that also drops off the radar. I suspect that if you keep your eyes open, some copies of vol 1 will reappear, though could be sporadic.

Some CDs do drop out and it can be very curious. I don't fully understand why Monteux's Beethoven symphonies are not always available. Thus the Decca/London versions of 2,4,5 and 7 are hard to get, while there are still new copies of 1,3,6 and 8. Similar considerations apply to his Dvorak 7, though it has come back on Australian Eloquence - though there could be concerns about AMSI processing - I'm not sure if it applies to that issue.

Volume 1 is going for $600+ on Amazon and ebay.
The Monteux Dvorak 7 is very readily available. I just bought his Enigma Variations a few months ago and the Dvorak was the filler.

[Alf-Prufrock]

I don't fully understand why Monteux's Beethoven symphonies are not always available. Thus the Decca/London versions of 2,4,5 and 7 are hard to get, while there are still new copies of 1,3,6 and 8.

I was always puzzled as to why the Monteux Beethoven set was split between the Vienna and the London orchestras. The LSO set is plainly superior to the VPO one, with more cogent, sparkling, energetic performances. I always regretted that the Eroica was given to the Vienna orchestra rather than the London one, though it is never less than interesting. No wonder Monteux liked the LSO and became its chief conductor towards the end of his long life.

[Karafan]

I was always puzzled as to why the Monteux Beethoven set was split between the Vienna and the London orchestras. The LSO set is plainly superior to the VPO one, with more cogent, sparkling, energetic performances. I always regretted that the Eroica was given to the Vienna orchestra rather than the London one, though it is never less than interesting. No wonder Monteux liked the LSO and became its chief conductor towards the end of his long life.

The entire set of Beethoven symphonies is well worth looking out for (even split, as it is, across these Double Deccas) - it is a wonderfully communicative cycle with a sense of humanity only Maitre Monteux could ever convey so convincingly.

[richardfinegold]

The entire set of Beethoven symphonies is well worth looking out for (even split, as it is, across these Double Deccas) - it is a wonderfully communicative cycle with a sense of humanity only Maitre Monteux could ever convey so convincingly.

I have these Double Deccas (DD) and I have noted that Berkshire Record Outlet here in the states is selling them very cheaply. The whole set is quite enjoyable, but the 6th has always held a special spot in my affection. Be aware that these DD do not contain the 9th, which Monteux apparently was not allowed to record for Decca, but instead for an Independent Label (it was released in the States on Westminster). There is also an Amsterdam Eroica from 1962, and I believe that is all the stereo Monteux Beethoven available.