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  • makropulos
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1677

    #61
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    I wonder if, by the time it comes to be published, you will be able to refer to a recording of the edition prepared by Jiří Zahrádka and Leoš Faltus, as played on the first night of this years proms, and so badly dynamically compressed for broadcast and the iPlayer?
    Bryn, I've certainly referred to the edition in considerable detail (and it should be in print any day) although there's no commercial recording as yet. I don't know of any plans for one at the moment (nor did Zahrádka when I asked him) - but surely it can't be too long before someone takes it up. The newest Naxos recording (with Wit) is of the standard version.

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    • Barbirollians
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11774

      #62
      IRR continues to be so inconsistent . This month includes a rave review of Hamelin's Haydn 3.4 & 11 Piano Concerto recordings that does not bother to compare them with the marvellous Andsnes of a few years back .

      At least there are a great deal of intelligent reviews of cello works this month - free of Michael Jameson.

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      • Il Grande Inquisitor
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 961

        #63
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        IRR continues to be so inconsistent . This month includes a rave review of Hamelin's Haydn 3.4 & 11 Piano Concerto recordings that does not bother to compare them with the marvellous Andsnes of a few years back .
        You raise an interesting point: which recordings to use for comparative purposes? Every reader/ listener will have an opinion as to which recordings would make for a relevant comparison, but ultimately, it does rather depend on which discs are in the reviewer's library. It may be that when a review is commissioned, there's another recent recording by a major artist which would make for a pertinent comparison. However, turnaround for review copy is quite quick, so it's not always possible to order it and receive it in good time.

        Forum mods - I'm sure there's an IRR thread somewhere. Any chance Barbirollians' post and this follow could be shunted there, please?


        [ED. Moved as requested :-) - ff]
        Last edited by french frank; 10-04-13, 11:47. Reason: Posts moved to relevant thread
        Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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        • VodkaDilc

          #64
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post

          It is fascinating just how distinct IRR and Gramophone look now, but what a pity IRR can't afford to put their archive online...
          My IRR archive is on-shelf, which is far more convenient, for me, than online. The entire set of IRR is within a couple of feet of this chair. My only regret is that the annual index has been discontinued. If IRR management still reads this forum, perhaps they could explain this - and, even better, reintroduce this helpful aid to tracing reviews.

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #65
            Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
            My IRR archive is on-shelf, which is far more convenient, for me, than online. The entire set of IRR is within a couple of feet of this chair. My only regret is that the annual index has been discontinued. If IRR management still reads this forum, perhaps they could explain this - and, even better, reintroduce this helpful aid to tracing reviews.
            How lovely... for you (index notwithstanding...ah, the fun of leafing through...)

            Just to spell it out - a well-designed online IRR Archive would increase the magazine's appeal and probably their readership too. In addition to being a lot more fun, and providing yet another highly edifying way to waste time.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30526

              #66
              The dedicated IRR thread resuscitated with the latest posts, as requested.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Il Grande Inquisitor
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 961

                #67
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                The dedicated IRR thread resuscitated with the latest posts, as requested.
                Thank you, ff.

                Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                My IRR archive is on-shelf, which is far more convenient, for me, than online. The entire set of IRR is within a couple of feet of this chair. My only regret is that the annual index has been discontinued. If IRR management still reads this forum, perhaps they could explain this - and, even better, reintroduce this helpful aid to tracing reviews.
                It might also be worth sending a letter/ email to enquire, VodkaDilc.
                Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                • VodkaDilc

                  #68

                  It might also be worth sending a letter/ email to enquire, VodkaDilc.
                  I have just sent an email. I will report back.

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                  • Ferretfancy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3487

                    #69
                    Originally posted by makropulos View Post
                    Bryn, I've certainly referred to the edition in considerable detail (and it should be in print any day) although there's no commercial recording as yet. I don't know of any plans for one at the moment (nor did Zahrádka when I asked him) - but surely it can't be too long before someone takes it up. The newest Naxos recording (with Wit) is of the standard version.
                    This is not meant unkindly, but when a message forms part of an ongoing conversation whose origins may be some way back, would it be possible for contributors to
                    remind us all what the subject is from time to time? It may seem indolent of me, but there isn't always time to search every message to find the start of a discussion.Wit may have recorded the Naxos version, but of what?

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                      This is not meant unkindly, but when a message forms part of an ongoing conversation whose origins may be some way back, would it be possible for contributors to
                      remind us all what the subject is from time to time? It may seem indolent of me, but there isn't always time to search every message to find the start of a discussion.Wit may have recorded the Naxos version, but of what?
                      Where a message includes a quote from the message to which it is a response, there is usually a blue double pointer icon to the right of the name of the poster quoted. Clicking on that icon takes you to the message quoted. Following the trail in this case leads one to an original message re. Janacek's Glagolitic Mass.
                      Last edited by Bryn; 10-04-13, 20:47. Reason: Typos

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                      • makropulos
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1677

                        #71
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        How lovely... for you (index notwithstanding...ah, the fun of leafing through...)

                        Just to spell it out - a well-designed online IRR Archive would increase the magazine's appeal and probably their readership too. In addition to being a lot more fun, and providing yet another highly edifying way to waste time.
                        Absolutely agreed - it would be great to have all of IRR online.
                        I know for sure that IRR's editor would very much like an online archive to be available too. Apparently it's a very expensive project, so I fear it's not going to happen quickly.

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                        • Ferretfancy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3487

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Where a message included a quote from the message to which it is a response, there is usually a blue doube pointer icon to the right of the name of the poster quoted. Clicking on that icon takes you to the message quoted. Following the trail in this case leads one to an original message re. Janacek's Glagolitic Mass.
                          Thanks Bryn, as a bear of little brain I was quite unaware of this> I do try though !
                          Ferret

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                          • mikealdren
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1206

                            #73
                            You and me both Ferret, thanks Bryn!

                            Mike

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                            • richardfinegold
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7756

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              IRR continues to be so inconsistent . This month includes a rave review of Hamelin's Haydn 3.4 & 11 Piano Concerto recordings that does not bother to compare them with the marvellous Andsnes of a few years back .

                              At least there are a great deal of intelligent reviews of cello works this month - free of Michael Jameson.
                              I think that it is unreasonable to expect a reviewer to have all previous recordings or a work at their disposal for comparisons.

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                              • Il Grande Inquisitor
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 961

                                #75
                                Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                                I think that it is unreasonable to expect a reviewer to have all previous recordings or a work at their disposal for comparisons.
                                A few relevant comparisons should suffice, unless undertaking a BaL-type piece. It's unfortunate, when reviewing, not to have a high profile recent release to hand, but budgets are limited (I scour the Bargains thread as much as many members here!).

                                For a current review, however, I have spent out on a few new versions specifically because I didn't want to be influenced by familiar 'benchmark' recordings in doing a 'blind listening' test, which was the only way I felt I could fairly assess the new recording up for review.
                                Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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